Delta travel priviledges

[DYLIN]

Why do you think you should get a higher pass privligde than an retiree who has put in years for that airline? Not just talking Delta now. I feel if my pay check has never said that airlines name than there employees and retirees should go ahead of everyone else. What was Pinnacles priority with NWA before the merger? How about on airlink flights before the merger happen? I believe NWA employees had priority on those flights also.

Just talked to a gate agent a few weeks ago.

She was a DAL F/A for a short time after being a gate agent for years. She hated it but is interested in working for SWA as an F/A, and has several contacts there and a realistic chance at an interview when they become available.

This will be the scenario: she will use her Delta retiree pass privileges to commute to work for Delta's competition, and at the same time, possibly bump a DCI flight crew employee off the flight and since so many of the DCI carriers are critically understaffed, that could result in a cancellation of a flight.

To summarize that again: SWA F/A cancels DL connection flight.

That should never be possible, but it absolutely is.

 

[filejw]

Just talked to a gate agent a few weeks ago.

She was a DAL F/A for a short time after being a gate agent for years. She hated it but is interested in working for SWA as an F/A, and has several contacts there and a realistic chance at an interview when they become available.

This will be the scenario: she will use her Delta retiree pass privileges to commute to work for Delta's competition, and at the same time, possibly bump a DCI flight crew employee off the flight and since so many of the DCI carriers are critically understaffed, that could result in a cancellation of a flight.

To summarize that again: SWA F/A cancels DL connection flight.


That should never be possible, but it absolutely is.

In theory you are not supposed to use your pass privileges for any kind of business so if she got caught she could lose passes for period of time. That said commuting is our responsibility not Deltas. Delta doesn't care how I get to work and I dont think they care how somebody working for a DCI does either.

 

[jonjuan]

I think we should be at least S3B on mainline flights. Ridiculous to see a 80 yr old retiree get on at Delta while I get can't to work as a Delta Connection pilot.

commuting is a choice, brah....:beer:

 

[fatdumbandhappy]

Delta is good if you travel a lot, I just went to Tokyo for a few days, business (first) both ways, only payed $41 departure tax out of HND. I use up all my international days each year and have gone to South/Central America many times which is considered domestic and is unlimited! You just have to be flexible and willing to change plans at the last minute and go where the loads are light. I sit in business 95% of the time by following the last sentence.

 

[titans10]

Just talked to a gate agent a few weeks ago.

She was a DAL F/A for a short time after being a gate agent for years. She hated it but is interested in working for SWA as an F/A, and has several contacts there and a realistic chance at an interview when they become available.

This will be the scenario: she will use her Delta retiree pass privileges to commute to work for Delta's competition, and at the same time, possibly bump a DCI flight crew employee off the flight and since so many of the DCI carriers are critically understaffed, that could result in a cancellation of a flight.

To summarize that again: SWA F/A cancels DL connection flight.



That should never be possible, but it absolutely is.

If a flight cancells then I believe your DCI carrier should look into why you could not get to work. They do not make you live out of base. YOu decided to. So the blame should and will come down to you. NOt an Mainline employee or Retiree. I believe a mainline employee should get priority on ever flight that has there name on it.

 

[RJLoser]

If a flight cancells then I believe your DCI carrier should look into why you could not get to work. They do not make you live out of base. YOu decided to. So the blame should and will come down to you. NOt an Mainline employee or Retiree. I believe a mainline employee should get priority on ever flight that has there name on it.

Living in base is difficult when you are a DCI pilot. Delta changes things so often pilots are always moving. Ultimately, when a DCI pilot is bumped and a flight is cancelled....it's YOUR customers getting screwed.

 

[altimaklr]

Most people can't live near JFK or LGA on $30-60k

 

[jonjuan]

Living in base is difficult when you are a DCI pilot. Delta changes things so often pilots are always moving. Ultimately, when a DCI pilot is bumped and a flight is cancelled....it's YOUR customers getting screwed.

That's what reserves are for-it's a back-up for people getting sick, missing commutes, etc. rarely do flights get cancelled because people decide to commute, can't do so because loads are highs and they start blaming retirees trying to go see sick family members.
Move to base and don't start pumping out the kids as a 2nd year FO making 30K/year.

 

[jonjuan]

Most people can't live near JFK or LGA on $30-60k

Plenty of affordable places within a 2 hour drive. Problem is, many think it's their right to commute from 1,000 miles away and then bitch about it when they can't get on a plane due to increased load factors and non-revs traveling on earned benefits.

 

[silver02ex]

Why do you think you should get a higher pass privligde than an retiree who has put in years for that airline?

Years? I just saw a 2010 hire listed as retiree go in front of a Comair guy who was hired in the 80's today.

But Delta is pass is good if you use it for international flights, since we don't have to pay extra for Business class. Travelnet is great since I can sit at the gate and see if I will get on or not.

 

[skypine69]

Cant tell you how nice it is to have a paid ticket to work now. I am Gold on DL, and get upgraded more often than not. Fell sorry for those poor bastards going to the front to beg for a jumpseat (and sit in the actual) while I am in first class with a cocktail.

 

[DYLIN]

If a flight cancells then I believe your DCI carrier should look into why you could not get to work. They do not make you live out of base. YOu decided to. So the blame should and will come down to you. NOt an Mainline employee or Retiree. I believe a mainline employee should get priority on ever flight that has there name on it.

Hey, don't tell me, I live in base.

What I was saying though, was that a retiree can work for the competition and use their retiree benefits. filejw mentions that is not permitted but I'm sure it happens and the person I talked to seemed to have no qualms about planning to do just that.

One mainline company I am thinking of has made some of the CPAs so restrictive that companies basically have no reserve crews. Idiotic on mainline's part. If you're going to outsource, at least outsource right. It would be like an airline outsourcing engine maintenance to an engine manufacturer and then the airline tells them "but you're not allowed to change any fan blades, no matter what. It costs too much."

 

[titans10]

Living in base is difficult when you are a DCI pilot. Delta changes things so often pilots are always moving. Ultimately, when a DCI pilot is bumped and a flight is cancelled....it's YOUR customers getting screwed.

So you are saying Delta makes the decision for your company where to base its pilots? I believe you knew what a DCI carrier was all about when you took the job? It is flying for a mainline carrier where ever they need that flying done. If the flights start cancelling because of lack crews do to commuting. Delta or anyone else will just move that flying to someone else. Regionals are just a pawn in the system and can be moved to wherever is needed.

 

[titans10]

Years? I just saw a 2010 hire listed as retiree go in front of a Comair guy who was hired in the 80's today.

But Delta is pass is good if you use it for international flights, since we don't have to pay extra for Business class. Travelnet is great since I can sit at the gate and see if I will get on or not.

You just answered the question? That was a Delta retiree and he was a comair employeee. Does not matter how long they worked for mainline that is how it is.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I don't have an issue with retirees going first on thier company's flights. I do have issue with them going first on my flights and even more so thier kids going first when they aren't even traveling with the retiree.