Delta to the rescue

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[canyonblue]

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So what was it?

 

[General Lee]

So what was it?

I think he was talking about doing St Maarten charters for Carnival Cruise lines. I believe DL had 40 or so charters to carry 3500 or so people out of SXM to Orlando, where the cruise started. They also used DL for the Mobile, AL ship, flying people to IAH from MSY. Just a guess.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[K-Mart]

Heard a rumor Delta is buying a cruise boat in conjunction with Disney.

 

[captfred]

I think he was talking about doing St Maarten charters for Carnival Cruise lines. I believe DL had 40 or so charters to carry 3500 or so people out of SXM to Orlando, where the cruise started. They also used DL for the Mobile, AL ship, flying people to IAH from MSY. Just a guess.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

The cruise started in Orlando? All I ever see are lakes and rivers around there. Guess I must have been nodding off descending into MCO.

Just kidding GL-we appreciate your support on the west side.

 

[aa73]

I can concur with the DL stuff out of SXM. Just did a SXM layover and the terminal looked like ATL. I counted a DL A330, 763, 757 and 737 during that day. The night before, when we landed around 9pm, there was a DL 763 pushing back for MCO. CA and I were blown away in our lone little AA 757.

The running joke here at AA is that Carnival called AA inquiring about extra planes for rescue charters, so AA got on the phone with Jetblue inquiring about contracting out charter flights. :laugh:

Good on DL for capitalizing on great opportunities. Wish we had that type of management here.

 

[Scoot 11]

I can concur with the DL stuff out of SXM. Just did a SXM layover and the terminal looked like ATL. I counted a DL A330, 763, 757 and 737 during that day. The night before, when we landed around 9pm, there was a DL 763 pushing back for MCO. CA and I were blown away in our lone little AA 757.

The running joke here at AA is that Carnival called AA inquiring about extra planes for rescue charters, so AA got on the phone with Jetblue inquiring about contracting out charter flights. :laugh:

Good on DL for capitalizing on great opportunities. Wish we had that type of management here.

I agree. It's finally nice to see a PRO active management team rather than be reactionary.
If you think it's bad under the current AA management now, just wait until dougie the drunk gets a hold of that airline. Just look how he destroyed what was once US Air!

 

[aa73]

I agree. It's finally nice to see a PRO active management team rather than be reactionary.
If you think it's bad under the current AA management now, just wait until dougie the drunk gets a hold of that airline. Just look how he destroyed what was once US Air!

"Destroyed USAir?" Disagree... if anything, I'd say he turned USAir from bleeding red into a profitable airline. Seems like they have been pulling in some decent profits lately. I'd say Doogie represents the best choice in CEOs we've had in about 17 years. He has one heck of an opportunity to pull a "Delta" with AA if he plays his cards right.

Cautiously optimistic,
73

 

[GogglesPisano]

"Destroyed USAir?" Disagree... if anything, I'd say he turned USAir from bleeding red into a profitable airline. Seems like they have been pulling in some decent profits lately. I'd say Doogie represents the best choice in CEOs we've had in about 17 years. He has one heck of an opportunity to pull a "Delta" with AA if he plays his cards right.

Cautiously optimistic,
73

How could USAir not make money these past 7 or 8 years. Have you seen their payscales? Divided and conquered.

 

[aa73]

How could USAir not make money these past 7 or 8 years. Have you seen their payscales? Divided and conquered.

I've seen their pay scales and agree with you. That said, history is rife with airline CEOs that wrecked their airlines with pay scales WELL BELOW what USAir pilots are making.

Not only is USAir profitable, it also has one of the best on time and lost baggage records. Takes more than crappy pay scales to make that happen. Wall St and the entire industry generally agree that Doogie is a pretty effective CEO and have high hopes for him with AA.

Time will tell.

 

[OHGOON]

Anyone is better than Whoreturd.

 

[Andy]

How could USAir not make money these past 7 or 8 years. Have you seen their payscales? Divided and conquered.

Self-inflicted by usapa.

In spite of the two airlines being 'merged', Parker's team has been forced to run the company as two separate airlines. This has eliminated any synergies that could have been gained by combining the two airlines. That alone is more of a drag on earnings than the low payscales.

I've been critical of Parker's team in the past, but considering the handicaps that they've had to deal with, I'd say that they're among the best airline management teams out there. Certainly a helluva lot better than the mismanagement team we got from Continental now running United. And I'd definitely say it's an improvement over current AMR management.

 

[IAHERJ]

Our biggest problems are with the United group from McDonald down running the NOC. No Continental peeps in any leadership roles on the NOC floor....

 

[nimtz]

Our biggest problems are with the United group from McDonald down running the NOC. No Continental peeps in any leadership roles on the NOC floor....

Too bad! We are really missing that valuable People Express presence!

 

[Andy]

Our biggest problems are with the United group from McDonald down running the NOC. No Continental peeps in any leadership roles on the NOC floor....

Yep, you nailed it. 80% of leadership is ex-con. But the ENTIRE problem with the operation is due to the old United side.

I started working almost 40 years ago as a busboy. In the last year, I've had more 'mistakes' with my pay than my ENTIRE previous work history. And it's always been in the company's favor. Another paycheck, another shortchanging LCAL pay SNAFU; normal stuff for ex-cons.

I've had LCAL's brilliant schedulers put me on reserve 6+ hours prior to my first leg multiple leg days. I've hit 16 hours and couldn't fly the last leg - no worries; LCAL's ops had several different times for when I'd time out. All of them wrong and all of them would have me exceed a 16 hour duty day.

And we're the 787 launch customer in the US thanks to LCAL. That's worked out really well for us.

But the ONLY problem with the combined operation is due to ex United. Ex-cons are the only thing holding this place together. Yep, you nailed it.

 

[Flyer1015]

Too bad! We are really missing that valuable People Express presence!

What's NOC?

And honest question, what kind of integration did the People Express pilots get with Continental? Relative, DOH, staple, etc?