Delta to Cancel Empty ASA Flights

[KickItOut]

According to and Atlanta Gate Agent, Delta, starting in June, will start canceling ASA flights that have light loads when a mainline flight traveling to the same city would have enough seats to accommodate the passengers on the cancelled flight. The agent said she was going through training for the new procedure.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

hmm I guess that means more airport appreciation time at old Hartsfield...Good thing we have free wifi but wait no more Moo Moo Mr Cow what will we do!!!???

 

[KickItOut]

WHAT???? No more Mr. Cow? Since when?

 

[SPDBRD747400]

WHAT???? No more Mr. Cow? Since when?

Someone posted about a month ago that they were stopping it...but I hope not! "Welcome to Moe's!"

 

[USCtrojan]

According to and Atlanta Gate Agent, Delta, starting in June, will start canceling ASA flights that have light loads when a mainline flight traveling to the same city would have enough seats to accommodate the passengers on the cancelled flight. The agent said she was going through training for the new procedure.

So far, since about late Jan, the lightest load I've seen is 38 folks on the 50 seater. Avg. around 45 pax on the 50 EVERYWHERE. I don't see too much of this unless it really falls off. I can't see how the FAA signs off on this. I'd be pissed as a consumer if I had to go from A to B, and just because everybody else isn't, I get delayed. Kind of changes the meaning of scheduled "common carriage" doesn't it?
Scheduled so long as we sell enough tickets...


Trojan

 

[go!ng for broke]

Happens all the time in far 135

 

[BigPappa]

That is why it is called part 135

 

[spudskier]

doesn't make sense, doesn't ASA still get paid if DAL is the one to cancel the flight??

Go back to the ice storms, didn't ASA get paid for the regional flights that DAL themselves canceled but not for the flights that ASA canceled?

DAL doesn't have enough mainline to most of the cities that ASA services for this to be an issue.

 

[CRJ puppy]

doesn't make sense, doesn't ASA still get paid if DAL is the one to cancel the flight??

Go back to the ice storms, didn't ASA get paid for the regional flights that DAL themselves canceled but not for the flights that ASA canceled?

DAL doesn't have enough mainline to most of the cities that ASA services for this to be an issue.

Yes, but they DON'T pay for the fuel then...the largest single cost per flight now.

 

[XPOO]

Correct, if it is a Delta initiated cancel, then ASA will still get paid. And so will the crews. I guess the cost savings for Delta would be strictly based on fuel.

 

[greyskyracer]

cancelation pay?

 

[OK Bud!]

who pays the fuel to reposition the aircraft?

 

[IADBLRJ41]

who pays the fuel to reposition the aircraft?

My Guess it would be only in a roundtrip type cancel.. Like ATL-SAV-ATL. Airways is looking at this too.

 

[BIGGOAT]

I got a Moo Moo two days ago! Has anybody been denied a Mr. cow?

Goat

 

[Medeco]

Add me to the Moo Moo list, two days ago.

Medeco

If they say something then I'm buying it for my child that is riding the flight with me and my wife.

 

[nck4857]

I had about 5 moo moo's in the last week....

 

[RJidiot]

Add me to the Moo Moo list, two days ago.

Medeco

If they say something then I'm buying it for my child that is riding the flight with me and my wife.

I just tell them it's for the gimp.

 

[atrdriver]

Problem is, if any 121 carrier cancels too many flights the FAA looks into it, and I don't think that a flight can be canceled due to load, at least in the FAAs eyes. That's what I was told by a fed on the jumpseat once.

 

[pdub20s]

Here is whats going to happen:

Delta is gonna keep cancelling your flights due to light loads. Then out of no where they are going to cancel your CRJ-200 contract and say your completion was to low and is a violation of the contract. Then they are still gonna ask you guys to fly the -700s or 900s(whatever you guys have).

 

[JustaNumber]

Here is whats going to happen:

Delta is gonna keep cancelling your flights due to light loads. Then out of no where they are going to cancel your CRJ-200 contract and say your completion was to low and is a violation of the contract. Then they are still gonna ask you guys to fly the -700s or 900s(whatever you guys have).

There is one difference, though. MESA SUCKS. :smash:

 

[Stifler's Mom]

This is the most troublesome news I have heard around here in years.........no more Mr. Moo Moo?

 

[rightseatjocky]

I had Moo Moo Mr Cow yesterday.
WELCOME TOOOO MOESSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[centralpilot]

Add me to the Moo Moo list, two days ago.

Medeco

If they say something then I'm buying it for my child that is riding the flight with me and my wife.

I've never heard them say a word about it. I doubt they care.

 

[ASAFOE120]

A couple of weeks ago my fo and i had a 2 hr sit in ATL. My fo went for the moo moo. On our next leg to BHM, he left it in the bowl and was hurtin!!

Im skippin the moo moo for a while.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

This is where I read it:
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=111264

Moe's in C in ATL is getting rid of all kids meals (including the moo moo mister cow)!!! NOT an April fool's joke... was talking to the manager the other day.

Apparently ATL airport is demanding more money from Moe's and they aren't making enough of a profit from the Kids meals (ATL get's 10% of all sales)

Told the manager it's the best deal in the airport, how could he do it!? He said it's just business...


another dark day in ATL :bawling:

 

[centralpilot]

And if someone posts it on flightinfo, it must be true

 

[Brasilia Pup]

ok, call me "Skip" or La Broke or even just plain ignoramous, but what the h*ll is a moo moo?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

According to and Atlanta Gate Agent, Delta, starting in June, will start canceling ASA flights that have light loads when a mainline flight traveling to the same city would have enough seats to accommodate the passengers on the cancelled flight. The agent said she was going through training for the new procedure.

A gate agent isn't the best source of intel on topics like this. If you want to know when the widget on the wall will be changed yes, ops facts no. This will be a ops/PR nightmare for any carrier to simply cancel a R/T ONLY because the load is light. If you have a mechanical and need another a/c to cover it then yes, the sector managers know which flts make operational sense to cxl. Just to say "15 or less make em wait" will not work. What do you tell the pax "you pulled the short straw tonight" see ya in about 3 hours.

 

[Speedtape]

What IS........a light load?

Who has had a .......light load lately?
Light loads...... do not usually happen in Summer?
If there is such a thing as a ......light load, how many does ASA really have? miniscule numbers, if any!

What does a .......light load, mean to you? Ask Monica!

 

[FORESTGUMP]

ok, call me "Skip" or La Broke or even just plain ignoramous, but what the h*ll is a moo moo?

I think its one of those one piece jumpsuit things that fat chicks wear....right?

or was it a dress for fat chicks???

I can't quite remember.