Delta TA-whos seen it?

[Hamfighter]

They are diluting the Delta brand with a dozen dci carriers. If they want the jets, bring them to Delta and hire all the regional pilots you need to staff properly.

 

[General Lee]

I don't see how 19% DOS is acceptable. It shouldn't take six years to match SW on narrow bodies.

No, I mean 19% on date of signing (let's say July 1st), then more Jan 1st, (the originally ammendable date), and then more the next 2 years. How about 19% DOS, then 6%, 6%, and 6%? Sounds better. There had better be a nice raise, we gave enough at the office already. And the rest of the contract, including scope, better be good too. It seems like the company wants to do something fast, and that should mean something to our negotiators. Fingers crossed! I bet the DPA guys are getting excited....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[xjhawk]

And...
NO. More. RJs.
I spent seven years at regionals. I'm not wishing that (or more) on anybody.

Now that is what I am talking about! I liked both of your comments. The only regional pilots who want to stay at a regional are mostly the top 10-15% and a select few who are attached to the base they currently live in (I also suspect many of those have a spouse who makes $$$$$$). The rest of us don't want scope given for our goal was the same as yours-to work at a major.

That being said when I am paying a set fee on a contract, and it is not due for months from now. I do not ask to renegotiate early just so I can pay more for my new contract without getting something for what I am paying for. So I must wonder like the rest of you-what does Delta want that would make them give you so much so early?

I am at a sinking ship, the SS Pinnacle that steered itself into a iceberg and is sinking fast. The faster all the Majors can figure out their destiny and stop merging and start hiring will be the best lifeboat for us all.

 

[waveflyer]

And...
NO. More. RJs.
I spent seven years at regionals. I'm not wishing that (or more) on anybody.

A big +1 to this post from 8 years at the "regionals"

 

[dontpost2]

From Michael Boyd's morning HotFlash (aviationplanning.com)
.....apparently he has some insight into the TA.

"That brings us to a new reality: It's becoming more and more obvious that it will be mainline airlines that fly these new aircraft fleets <small jets>. There are two clear indications. The first is what US Airways has reportedly discussed with American's pilot's union. The second - and more immediately concrete - is the tentative agreement between Delta and ALPA. Both include aircraft in the E-190 size category, and in the case of Delta, it even mentions the CRJ-900."

Some pivotal times it appears here once again for the domestic airline industry.

We shall see.....

 

[Freebrd]

Boyd's been preaching for years about the demise of the RJs and not much as happened. I don't think he knows what's in the TA as rates for the CRJ 900 have been in DALPA's contract for years now and that's probally what he's going on. Be sweet though if DAL flys those 900s, maybe I could get on with Delta then. Boyd, he's just a lot of hot air.

 

[jayme]

Exactly. The ONLY thing I see driving an early contract from management is that Pinnacle is currently in bankruptcy. I think there's something in this new TA that, if you guys sign off on it, will lead to more? bigger? planes at Pinnacle at slave wages.

 

[DoinTime]

No, I mean 19% on date of signing (let's say July 1st), then more Jan 1st, (the originally ammendable date), and then more the next 2 years. How about 19% DOS, then 6%, 6%, and 6%? Sounds better. There had better be a nice raise, we gave enough at the office already. And the rest of the contract, including scope, better be good too. It seems like the company wants to do something fast, and that should mean something to our negotiators. Fingers crossed! I bet the DPA guys are getting excited....


Bye Bye---General Lee

I have a feeling that you will be disappointed.

 

[curtaindriver]

No, I mean 19% on date of signing (let's say July 1st), then more Jan 1st, (the originally ammendable date), and then more the next 2 years. How about 19% DOS, then 6%, 6%, and 6%? Sounds better. There had better be a nice raise, we gave enough at the office already. And the rest of the contract, including scope, better be good too. It seems like the company wants to do something fast, and that should mean something to our negotiators. Fingers crossed! I bet the DPA guys are getting excited....


Bye Bye---General Lee

GL, I view you as one of the more intelligent dudes on this site..........you know as well as anybody that if a TA is pushed quickly, it is weighted toward the company's benefit, not the pilots.

CD

 

[KarmaPolice]

4/8.5/3/3

Profit sharing money reduced from 15 percent to 10 to fund raises!

More 76 seat RJ's however a block hour formula reducing overall numbers

Small DC raise

overtime flying pay above 85 hours.

Promise of a 100 seat aircraft.

 

[waterskier]

Heard MEC signed off on the new contract, & an email to the pilots is supposed to be going out today! Hoping for my career sake that the delta pilot hold the line on scope! 11 years @ regionals & could not be more ready to go!!!

 

[captain caveman]

GL, I view you as one of the more intelligent dudes on this site..........you know as well as anybody that if a TA is pushed quickly, it is weighted toward the company's benefit, not the pilots.

CD

Actually, anybody should know that an early TA should benefit the pilots. Why else would a negotiating committee settle so early?

 

[Turtle21]

The only leaked part is the rates. Since they're pretty good, you can assume it's because they want to distract you so you don't notice the garbage in the fine print. I hate to say it, but I see you guys giving away more flying.

Remember the Alamo.. I mean Comair.

 

[Turtle21]

RJ pukes? Fukc off dude. As$holes
like you are the problem with this profession. I'm sure you were born in the left seat of a 777.

Why would ALPA stand by and let a profession have such a wide disparity in pay and work rules?

 

[General Lee]

I have a feeling that you will be disappointed.

You got that right. So far I am hearing 4% date of signing, 8% more Jan 1st of 2013, and then 3% more each Jan 1st for the next two years. A 3 year contract with about a 19% raise from today. I haven't seen the other parts of the TA, and I bet ALPA will use the "time value of money" line, which is dissappointing. Right now, without looking at the rest of the TA, it would be a NO. We shall see...


Bye Bye---General Lee