Delta stuck in mud at DCA!!

[waveflyer]

One question; WHY?! Are we in such a damned hurry that we need to save 1-2 seconds by spooling engines as we're turning sharply onto centerline? I see guys do it all the time and I still don't get it--maybe it makes them feel 'cool'..

Bc those seconds add up

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Well, of course.

I think we all know what V1 is.

My point, which you may have misunderstood, is that you don't know how accurate the numbers are and why not use all available runway.

Surf normally gets a 95 knot V1 and rotates at about 100 knots and thus enjoys the luxury of a generous margin most places he flies.

Performance calculation and input errors occur, stacking the deck in your favor should that occur isn't harmful. I think most of us are with ya on that.

 

[WSurf]

Surf normally gets a 95 knot V1 and rotates at about 100 knots and thus enjoys the luxury of a generous margin most places he flies.

Performance calculation and input errors occur, stacking the deck in your favor should that occur isn't harmful. I think most of us are with ya on that.

Agreed... Damn... That's it... When ATC ask for a intersection Departure and I have the numbers for that intersection I'm going to refuse by saying, "I've got the numbers, but I feel safer going full length.. sorry"

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Bc those seconds add up

I thought we get paid by the minute?

 

[dicko]

One question; WHY?! Are we in such a damned hurry that we need to save 1-2 seconds by spooling engines as we're turning sharply onto centerline? I see guys do it all the time and I still don't get it--maybe it makes them feel 'cool'..

I'm not supporting the technique. The caveat was contained in the last paragraph. If it goes badly, there's going to be an invitation to a morning tea without any biscuits.

 

[waveflyer]

"When turning onto the runway centerline prior to takeoff - advance the thrust levers to 40% when you're at 45 degrees to the centerline. By the time you're lined up, the engines will be spooled and you can then hit TOGA."

Did you guys read this quote??^^^

40% in the 73 isn't going to send you into the grass at any time except nil brakes- but it does get most of the windup done with minimal rolling performance degradation-
What I don't advocate for is the dilly dallying we all see from the paid by the minute guys-
No- we aren't solely paid by the minute, but i get that. just dont go getting all conspiracy theorist when atch lets us get on out of there ahead of you if your rep tells them the chances are good you might be on the runway a bit- How about using your judgement and ability to get the job done safe and save the slow for making a point

Don't get all in a hussy pretending something's unsafe just bc you guys are padding your check-
Delta vid above = unsafe. Spooling up a bit for your weight so you reduce your time on the runway is jet flying 101

 

[heywood jablome]

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Zzzzzzzz.....Crickets chirping.....etc.

Sorry if I offended anyone that cares