Delta radio question

[aa73]

I know this is a totally dumba$$ question... but I can't help noticing that whenever DL pilots read back a radio transmission, they always precede it with their callsign first. ex.

ATC: "DL 406 turn right 15 degrees."

DL 406: "DL 406 right turn 15 degrees."

whereas most other airlines read the instructions, and THEN their call sign.

Is this a technique taught at DL or just coincidence?

YES I'm bored off my a$$!

Thanks
73

 

[Bill Mostellar]

I wish you success!
William

It's not Delta Policy, but it's far better than not using your call sign at all or just using your numbers.

I wish you success!
William

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

I asked a Delta pilot this question a few months ago. He said a while back there was a push to reduce ATC deviations and the company found that if a pilot reads back the reply in this manner the controller is more likely to listen to the readback.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I asked a Delta pilot this question a few months ago. He said a while back there was a push to reduce ATC deviations and the company found that if a pilot reads back the reply in this manner the controller is more likely to listen to the readback.

News to me....I don't fly with anybody who does that or at least I haven't noticed.

That's a new one. Then again, I don't pay much attention to anyone in the training dept. trying to change the common radio phraseology of the pilot-controller handbook.....

 

[cocknbull]

I too noticed that and I did some research. After consulting the AIM and reading FAA order 7110.65R I have come to the conclusion that both are acceptable. Clearances should be read back in the order they were received. For REQUESTS, stating your call sign first will allow ATC to find your tag first and than right down your request which may help them do their job easier. In most of the communication examples pilots transmitted their call sign first and then their clearance/request/etc....Maybe the DAL pilots are using the more correct, more formal ATC phraseology.

 

[learflyer]

just don't be a goober and add an "s" on the end of Delta, United, whomever. That is annoying. You know who you dorks are.

 

[Oh-ryan]

the correct response is:

"aaaaaaaand DL four o' six, right turn one fiver degrees."

 

[aa73]

Thanks guys and gals, there are some other pilots who read back in that fashion but I definitely noticed DL pilots doing it the most. They also seem to be the most consistent in not missing radio calls (AA pilots miss the most, it seems, probably due to the amount of bitching going on in the cockpit...:uzi: MGT!)

73

 

[jetpig32]

I believe military reads back with call sign first. That should explain it.

 

[IAHERJ]

And you can drop the "Heavy" from your callsign once you enter the Center's airspace guys. I hear DL 166 Heavy all the way across tha Atlantic most weeks. We all know you are in that big, mighty 767.....

 

[Jmoney]

Ditto!

just don't be a goober and add an "s" on the end of Delta, United, whomever. That is annoying. You know who you dorks are.

Totally!

Why the hell do some goobs pluralize their airline's name? Or maybe it is possesive-whatever, it sure is irritating, and I am pretty sure they do it just to get on my last nerve!

 

[Mud Eagle]

I believe military reads back with call sign first. That should explain it.

Not that I'm aware of. Maybe some do that, but that's definitely not the accepted practice in the USAF at least.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

And you can drop the "Heavy" from your callsign once you enter the Center's airspace guys. I hear DL 166 Heavy all the way across tha Atlantic most weeks. We all know you are in that big, mighty 767.....

That is pretty dumb......then again, we at Delta have to distinguish and be ready for the 100 seat RJ with drop tanks flying the tracks.....

"Shanwick, Shanwick Comair 011 position...."....God help us all!!

 

[densoo]

Totally!

Why the hell do some goobs pluralize their airline's name? Or maybe it is possesive-whatever, it sure is irritating, and I am pretty sure they do it just to get on my last nerve!

I think they're adding an apostrophe s, as in "Delta's 406 is level 350." Sounds the same on the radio though--odd.