Delta Private Jets

[The Kman]

Here is a good one. A DPJ pilot in TEB told us his 3 year old black berry was broken. The only way to get another one, not even a new one, was to allow the company to deduct $100 from his next paycheck. Can you belive that crap?! I would not have posted it if I didn't hear it first hand.

 

[wildcard]

He should mail in his black berry COD and tell DPJ if they need him to call him on his cell phone, but if they do there paying part of his cell phone bill. Time for mangement taking advandage of flight crews are almost over. Good will today will save them heart ache later. I weep for the pilots at DPJ. I used to work for segrave, so I know what your going through. The good news is there is life after that place. Good luck!

 

[BayBum37ft]

I was at Segrave and DPJ (DAE) and I agree with Wildcard, there is life after DPJ and you will be much happier, their day is coming. And the Puddle Pirate will be put out to sea for the last time.

 

[The Kman]

Management just implemented a notarized promissory note. This note will go in conjunction with the four page training contract. I guess this is suppose to reduce the nearly 30% attrition. They just don't get it!

 

[BoilerUP]

Beatings will continue until morale improves

Every month I get a letter from DPJ asking us to put our airplane on their charter certificate.

Every month I chuckle, rip it up, and round-file it.

Cold, COLD day in hell before I recommend my owner take his airplane to Jim Seagrave...

 

[Freedom]

Don't sign that Promissory Note guys

Management just implemented a notarized promissory note. This note will go in conjunction with the four page training contract. I guess this is suppose to reduce the nearly 30% attrition. They just don't get it!

It can be viewed as a Loan and therefore if not repaid, Jim Segrave can blackmail you by ruining your credit rating if you don't pay. This is the leverage several scumbag bottom feeders are now using. You have been warned: DO NOT SIGN

 

[The Kman]

Hopefully anyone who interviews will just say thanks but no thanks! If you don't sign it, your are unemployed once you are no longer current. Not sure what is worse, not having a job or being a slave to a bad 135.

 

[Freedom]

The solution to not signing....

.....is to get out before you need to sign.

Once turnover negatively affects his bottom line, the scumbag will have to change the poilcy.

 

[hawkerflyer]

Once turnover negatively affects his bottom line, the scumbag will have to change the poilcy.

True, in theory. But there will always be at least one person willing to jump in. Sometimes out of necessity to provide for their family, but more often because there will always be someone who will do anything to get into a cockpit, regardless. That's just the nature of this business and of supply and demand.

 

[Pattern-Master]

Are the pilots home based over there and is there any kind of schedule? And no, i'm not interested in working there,just curious.

 

[Freedom]

Its No Different than a 50% pay cut....

If a company changed the terms of your employment to something totally unacceptable like a 50% pay cut, you'd leave right?

Well, each person will have to decide for themselves if having to sign a Loan document (Promissory Note) which if not paid would destroy your credit, is worth it to continue working at that place.

Personally, I have turned down two job opportunities just because of this Promissory Note BS. I would rather make less money somewhere else than have a gun pointed to my head in the event that I elect to leave.

Is the ownership issuing you stock in the company if they are profitable? No. Then why should you fund their training expenses which are just a cost of doing business?

I think you will find more and more of the bottom feeders in this business going to these Promissory Notes. How else can they keep you working there if not with a gun to your head.

Really sad.

 

[minitour]

Management just implemented a notarized promissory note. This note will go in conjunction with the four page training contract. I guess this is suppose to reduce the nearly 30% attrition. They just don't get it!

Wow.

That's incredible.

 

[emspilot 01]

Delta Private Jets...

It can be viewed as a Loan and therefore if not repaid, Jim Segrave can blackmail you by ruining your credit rating if you don't pay. This is the leverage several scumbag bottom feeders are now using. You have been warned: DO NOT SIGN

The next step for the several scumbag 134.5 bottom feeders will be recurrent training contracts...:smash:

 

[hawkerflyer]

The next step for the several scumbag 134.5 bottom feeders will be recurrent training contracts...:smash:

Already there, at least one in the West. I flew for a crappy on-demand cargo operator that didn't even impose a recurrent contract.

 

[BayBum37ft]

Already there, at least one in the West. I flew for a crappy on-demand cargo operator that didn't even impose a recurrent contract.

Delta Air Elite (DPJ) has a recurrent training contract as well as a initial training contract which becomes a 4 year contract once you read the fine print. This place is a joke I was fortunate to leave when I was due for recurrent but I was going to quit even if I did not have a new job.

RUN FOREST RUN

 

[StarHustler]

These Scumbags recently sent our Owner an email soliciting him to move his a/c from the Management company that has managed his a/c for the last 7 years to their certificate. Thankfully, he is not interested. These Segrave low lifes are truly the bottom of bottom feeders. I have NEVER heard anyone say one kind word about them. We can only hope that they go teets-up in the very near future and that will be one less rotten apple in the barrell.

 

[emspilot 01]

Segrave Aviation...

These Scumbags recently sent our Owner an email soliciting him to move his a/c from the Management company that has managed his a/c for the last 7 years to their certificate. Thankfully, he is not interested. These Segrave low lifes are truly the bottom of bottom feeders. I have NEVER heard anyone say one kind word about them. We can only hope that they go teets-up in the very near future and that will be one less rotten apple in the barrell.

Segrave Aviation was always a 134.5 bottom feeder. They had a bad reputation for years and never seems to get any better. I am surprised anyone will charter a plane from them...:smash:

 

[The Kman]

JS is just riding on the Delta name. It cannot last. Nothing that runs that poorly will stay around.

 

[DUATS]

No bashing, please. An honest question.

I have a friend there who loves it, and says he is making $1K-$3K a month in addition to his salary because the plane is flying more than the guarantee (which is around 50 hours). Also said his F/O's are getting upgrading in less than six months.

Any insiders who can confirm or deny this?

(Oh, and he does agree that Seagrave sucks.)

 

[The Kman]

They will just up the hours if your aircraft type does fly well above the minimun. They have already done this 3 times. Haven't seen any 6 month upgrades. That would really piss off the sic's that have 3-4 years under their belt in another type. Also, no annual pay raises. I hope this helps answer your questions.