Delta Posts 2nd Qtr Results, Ends Qtr with $5.4 Billion Liquidity

[Schwanker]

So you and ACL65PILOT are saying that Delta has a hiring practice and your pilot group would be reluctant to have the DMEC approach management to change that extra-contractual protocol so furloughees from Comair, Mesaba or any other regional for that matter, could be hired there.

Am I getting that right?

I don't think you got that right. Many on this board have been championing bringing all Compass pilots on board.

Schwanker

 

[EdTeachLives!]

I agree. I am squarely on the fence about running. Someone needs to push me in one direction or the other.
We do have a few very impressive candidates that are running. A 777CA as a CA rep, and at least on senior ER FO that has made scope his battle. IMHO good running mates. Question is if we need a junior FO to run as well.

Uh...not familiar with the individuals, but, just hearing that one is a 777a and the other a senior 7er b smells a little. We need people hired in the '98 til now (last wave) time frame running for FO. As for the CA rep we need someone who was effected during the Ron Allen furlough running.

That demographic most likely "gets" scope. That along with a:

1. Stong stand on scope with the goal of taking it back.

2. Restoration of pay. No more managing expectations that this is can't be done by ALPA or the Co. That is BS. This is what it is and what it boils down to..."it's just business." Our business is supporting our families, theirs is running an airline. We should not take away from our families any more so that they can run their business. How much $ in concessions were given per year in BK? When should we see a return on our investment?

3. Retirement

So, ACL consider yourself pushed.

Ed

 

[FDJ2]

So you and ACL65PILOT are saying that Delta has a hiring practice and your pilot group would be reluctant to have the DMEC approach management to change that extra-contractual protocol so furloughees from Comair, Mesaba or any other regional for that matter, could be hired there.

Am I getting that right?

I don't think he said anything about the DMEC being reluctant to approach management to offer preferetial interviews for furloughed pilots. The Delta pilots did more than just ask, the Delta pilots negotiated contract language mandating it, which is far more than was ever asked of the CMR MEC.

The RJDC and CMR MEC attempted to use furloughed ALPA pilots as leverage to extract contract concessions from another ALPA pilot group, their actions have rightfully cast them as pariahs in the industry. True scum.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Uh...not familiar with the individuals, but, just hearing that one is a 777a and the other a senior 7er b smells a little. We need people hired in the '98 til now (last wave) time frame running for FO. As for the CA rep we need someone who was effected during the Ron Allen furlough running.

That demographic most likely "gets" scope. That along with a:

1. Stong stand on scope with the goal of taking it back.

2. Restoration of pay. No more managing expectations that this is can't be done by ALPA or the Co. That is BS. This is what it is and what it boils down to..."it's just business." Our business is supporting our families, theirs is running an airline. We should not take away from our families any more so that they can run their business. How much $ in concessions were given per year in BK? When should we see a return on our investment?

3. Retirement

So, ACL consider yourself pushed.

Ed

You made me lean a little more in that direction. When I said push, I meant it

 

[Superpilot92]

Uh...not familiar with the individuals, but, just hearing that one is a 777a and the other a senior 7er b smells a little. We need people hired in the '98 til now (last wave) time frame running for FO. As for the CA rep we need someone who was effected during the Ron Allen furlough running.

That demographic most likely "gets" scope. That along with a:

1. Stong stand on scope with the goal of taking it back.

2. Restoration of pay. No more managing expectations that this is can't be done by ALPA or the Co. That is BS. This is what it is and what it boils down to..."it's just business." Our business is supporting our families, theirs is running an airline. We should not take away from our families any more so that they can run their business. How much $ in concessions were given per year in BK? When should we see a return on our investment?

3. Retirement

So, ACL consider yourself pushed.

Ed

+1, this is me pushing harder :beer:

 

[patrickdc9]

+1, this is me pushing harder :beer:

Super, I think you should consider running too. I'd vote for you.

 

[PuffDriver]

I don't think he said anything about the DMEC being reluctant to approach management to offer preferetial interviews for furloughed pilots. The Delta pilots did more than just ask, the Delta pilots negotiated contract language mandating it, which is far more than was ever asked of the CMR MEC.

The RJDC and CMR MEC attempted to use furloughed ALPA pilots as leverage to extract contract concessions from another ALPA pilot group, their actions have rightfully cast them as pariahs in the industry. True scum.

You're wasting your breath, brother.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

ACL65PILOT '09 stickers shall be printed in bulk

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ACL65PILOT '09 stickers shall be printed in bulk

Not sure how that convinces me to run.

 

[NuGuy]

Not sure how that convinces me to run.

If you don't run, I will have Roseanne Barr come and sing love sonnets under your window every day for a year.

Nu

 

[Scope out RJ's]

If you don't run, I will have Roseanne Barr come and sing love sonnets under your window every day for a year.

Nu

uke:

 

[Superpilot92]

Super, I think you should consider running too. I'd vote for you.

Thanks, I've tossed the idea around a couple times, we'll see

 

[Schwanker]

July Traffic

ATLANTA, Aug. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL - News) today reported traffic results for July 2009. System traffic in July 2009, including both Delta and Northwest operations, decreased 2.5 percent compared to July 2008 on a 3.6 percent decrease in capacity, and load factor increased 1.0 point to 87.7 percent.
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Domestic traffic decreased 1.6 percent year over year on a 2.6 percent decrease in capacity. Domestic load factor increased 1.0 point to 88.6 percent. International traffic decreased 3.9 percent year over year on a 5.0 percent decrease in capacity, and load factor increased 1.0 point to 86.3 percent.


ASMs (000): 2009 vs 2008
Domestic 13,257,335 13,617,766 (2.6%)
Mainline 10,256,585 10,771,567 (4.8%)
Regional 3,000,750 2,846,199 5.4%

I still don't like this trend, despite what others are saying. Regional traffic is up 5.4% while mainline is down 4.8%!

 

[Noserider76]

ASMs (000): 2009 vs 2008
Domestic 13,257,335 13,617,766 (2.6%)
Mainline 10,256,585 10,771,567 (4.8%)
Regional 3,000,750 2,846,199 5.4%

I still don't like this trend, despite what others are saying. Regional traffic is up 5.4% while mainline is down 4.8%!

Glad you pointed that out. Company has no problem quickly reducing mainline capacity while increasing regional capacity during record fuel prices. Makes you wonder.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Those large RJ's are sure adding a lot of ASM's.

Saw one SKW jet sitting next to me in ATL the other day. It was on it way to Bozeman, MT. Who in their right mind would willingly sit in that for four hrs?