Delta Pilots:missery demands company!

[socrates1]

Sorry

That didn't quite post right. But you can go to the website and see it more clearly.

 

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Please provide proof, not just flame bait, but try to be specific in your explanations! 737

Since my employment scope has been re-written with the cap going from 105 seats to 50 seats ( with 57 CRJ700's grandfathered in), city pair limits put in place, stage length limits put in place and block hour limits put in place that were called "downside protections" for Delta pilots - so the company would be forced to park RJ's and furlough me. Fortunately even the Delta MEC realized it would be bad for mainline to park the airplanes that feed you - so they relented and agreed to the scope re-set numbers.

The Delta pilots sold the flying they did not want in exchange for pre-deregulation pay rates. They did this throughout the 1990's. Then in 2000 they decided to take that flying back from other ALPA members. They hijacked the national union ( our bargaining agent ) and used it to lock ASA and Comair out of negotiations with their employer - by conspiring with management to allow alter ego airline within an airline operations.

Consider this well written quote from a Delta pilot who I believe is an LEC member :

Subsidiaries and their parent corporations are all one "domestic air carrier" under federal law and for purposes of the Delta pilot scope clause. Our contract specifically incorporates federal law (49 USC 40102.a.2) to define an air carrier.

It makes sense if you think it through. Our scope language would be meaningless if all management had to do was form "subsidiaries" to get around it. A subsidiary is nothing more than a piece of paper in a lawyer's desk drawer. What matters is the people who ultimately own or control the assets.<br>

Now consider what the Delta MEC has actually done. At the 2000 Board of Directors meeting Chuck Giambusso argued that ASA and Comair's merger policy implementation date be denied - despite the fact that there were plans to put Delta's bid restricted second officers in ASA and Comair jets ( with their DAL seniority ). Delta had also hired ASA and Comair employees ( without ASA or Comair's participation ) for the WMU women's scholarship program and those pilots are now flying the line ( from what I hear ). Once the ASA and Comair pilots were locked out, it would be simple to renegotiate scope to redefine what is "desirable flying."

ASA and Comair pilots have a right to negotiate with their employer and ALPA should D@mn well stop conspiring with management to set up alter ego subsidiaries.

I can't wait for the names on the list of all the rjdc idiots to become public!

You putz. The names of the RJDC Plaintiff's are all over their web site and the Court documents, which are also on line, or can be copied from the Clerk of Court. Allthough I am not a Plaintiff - you may add me to the list as a supporter. Most of us are quite proud of our effort to repair ALPA and restore this profession.

 

[N2264J]

Re: Delta Pilots: missery demands company!

Have you seen the latest gambit on the PSA property?

Yes. Pitiful, pitiful excuse for a union.

Our "union" actually conspires with management against it's own members. In addition to the alter ego "bid-for-flying" disaster, we're about to get run over by cabotage because we don't have a healthy union that can focus on the real threats.


Enjoy!

 

[737 Pylt]

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Plese provide proof where ASA and Comair are profitable?!?! Or are you just talking out of your a$$ as usual! This has been beat to death!

Would you not agree that if ASA/CMR were the money-losing sections of DAL, since 9/11 that they would have sold them IMMEDIATELY to stem any 'further' loss?
Just that question, only.

I think you answered your own question (in a way). If ASA/Cmr were not profitable, who WOULD buy them!?!?!?

My point was that I am so fed up with the regionals claiming that they are the "money makers" for the airline! Show me where Comair pay for their own Reservations, advertising... etc.
Thats it.
737

 

[737 Pylt]

A hero is born every minute!

I'll roll the dice on that one hero!

I'm sure your captains are impressed by you!

 

[XRMEFLYER]

I'm sure your captains are impressed by you!

I fly with my favorite captain everyday and he is! Now GFY!

 

[737 Pylt]

This guy is such a loser

I fly with my favorite captain everyday and he is! Now GFY!

So little man, do you walk to work or do you take your lunch??
BTW its GFYS! MORON!

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

My god, are you like this when you fly??????????

 

[XRMEFLYER]

So little man, do you walk to work or do you take your lunch??
BTW its GFYS! MORON!

I stand corrected. Next time I will consult the epithet acronym handbook before posting. It's a shame that isn't part of spell check!

Now GFYS professor highbrow! Happy Now?