Delta Pilots don't check for frost on wings

[rtmcfi]

Before you call someone a ding dong do some research

I also doubt that in their SOP's it says that the use of the Sun is a legal option to de-ice,

Hey ding dong-
I picked up an airplane yesterday that had been at the maintainance ramp all day. There had been a hard frost overnight. Every plane that went out that morning was deiced. My plane went out in the afternoon. The sun was what deiced my plane. Should I file an asap so the faa does not go bat $hit on me?

 

[SFR]

Nor do we do 1:15 turns or connections.

Get in, get off, get out.

Spend your time with your family or business, not at the dang airport.

Next,
Gup

Oh, you forgot to mention that you kick FAT people off!!!! HA

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Geeze, 6 pages on what some passenger "saw".
I'm glad I fly cargo!

Boxes don't bitch

 

[lineflyer1]

Let me enlighten ya'll,

The wing skin on transport aircraft is so thick that if you spray hot water on it, the temprature of the skin will not rise above freezing and the water refreezes pretty darn fast even if the OAT is above freezing.

Thats why water is diluted with glycol/anti freeze to prevent it from refreezing even if the outside air temp is above freezing, the skin freezes it.

It might work on a Piper or Cessna but not on transport aircraft.

Jeez

 

[waveflyer]

I think there are a lot of pilot's who need to:
1) get their collective noses in their FOM's - your posts are not exactly creating a warm fuzzy about how you're doing the job-
then 2)- have some balls and be a g^dd^mned captain- you know the professional expert who would be knowledgable and competent enough to not worry if a private pilot might write a letter. I've had no more, or less, letters written in than anyone else- but the last thing I'm worried about is explaining myself to a chief or a fed bc I work hard enough to know my job.
We should NOT be returning to the gate ONLY to placate a pax or anyone else. Know your job and do the right thing.

In this case- no one knows anything other than the original poster is a f^cking idiot.

 

[IBNAV8R]

Just to be sure of what some of you are saying.

A passenger (or anyone else) points out a condition that causes him/her concern. The FOM provides definitive guidance for this condition. I should:

1) have the balls to ignore this and depart anyway without further investigation. If the CREW didn't see it, it doesn't count.

2) investigate, see the frost, and have the balls to depart anyway (just to prove that I'm not placating some dumb-ass passenger with a PPL)

3) have the balls to use whatever procedure I think might do the trick.

4) try to get an interview with Mesa after I get my revoked certificates back.

 

[100/hour/5y]

5. Taxi into the sun, set parking brake and read my USA today while the so called frost melts.... "It was within approved spec to takeoff..."
6. Thank the guy getting off the airplane after 2hrs of overs and wish him good luck standing by for the next flight because most flights are running full!

 

[becket]

Hot Water? My azz would be off that plane in 2 seconds if I saw them try that on frost.

 

[waveflyer]

IBNAV8R- don't take that from my post. Do the right thing is pretty clear. My post was in response to posters who fully admit they fly and make decisions to protect against the perception of the ignorant. I have no desire to get into this particular example bc the original post was so bad.
Still believe it's not worth this many comments. Apologies for adding to it. But you're right - I'm not espousing a huge ego in this gig- but rather more competent use of judgement over simply being scared of making a call. And there are plenty who seem to be scared of their own shadow.
If the shoe fits...

 

[crj567]

Wow, note the time and date, I actually agree with Gup!
The origional poster is a doosh bag!
Oh yeah, Gup, all those things I said about you before.......I wish I could start all over and repeat them all!:laugh::laugh:

Yep-

A total "doosh bag." One who likely saw a whole planeload of people saved by an "irate passenger." NO ONE takes off in a swept wing jet with ANY frost on the wing.

WE are lucky this didn't turn ugly.

-While everyone is playing around with "is hot water legal or not," we are all missing the big picture... It really doesn't matter if you are sitting on the freaking equator-if you gots frost, you best not fly! Aviation doesn't need one more bit of bad press right now.