Delta Pilots Coming After DCI Flying

[800Dog]

If the Delta pilots are successful in killing the airline, our representational battle not matter much - here. You will still have your battles to fight and I wish you luck with the NWA MEC. Perhaps you can be a career FO and make many good connections with the jets for jobs captains you fly with.

I think Delta management is doing a good enough job on its own of "killing" the airline.

 

[737 Pylt]

The Fee for Departure Task Force!

I've got tears in my eyes. We're saved!

By the way, how's that Brand Scope workin' out for ya?

AAAAHHH....Loser #3 shows up! Hey, shouldn't you be working on ligitigation updates and industry updates??
How's that lawsuit going sparky?? You sending Haber lots and lots of money??
LMAO!
737

 

[N2264J]

AAAAHHH....Loser #3 shows up! Hey, shouldn't you be working on ligitigation updates and industry updates?? How's that lawsuit going sparky?? You sending Haber lots and lots of money?? LMAO!
737

You know Pylt, the mental health community is making some wonderful and amazing advances in the treatment of Coprolalia (Tourettes Syndrome).

 

[737 Pylt]

You know Pylt, the mental health community is making some wonderful and amazing advances in the treatment of Coprolalia (Tourettes Syndrome).

So how are your circle jerk pals at the rjdc doing??
737

 

[uba757]

Hey PYLT at-least you are consistent, it seems you hate everyone equally. LOL. UBA757

 

[PCL_128]

You know Pylt, the mental health community is making some wonderful and amazing advances in the treatment of Coprolalia (Tourettes Syndrome).

Apparently they haven't made any progress in curing you and your pals in the RJDC of your crazy delusions. Keep sending those checks! The lawyers need some fancy new suits to wear to the court when your final claim gets thrown out!

 

[737 Pylt]

Hey PYLT at-least you are consistent, it seems you hate everyone equally. LOL. UBA757

Hey UBA:
Sorry you lost your job at CMR, but your frustrations w/ the DL pilot group is clouding your judgement...Its management you should have your beef with...My beef is with pilots who think they're entitled to something they haven't worked for, aka the rjdc pukes!
737

 

[800Dog]

Hey UBA:
Sorry you lost your job at CMR, but your frustrations w/ the DL pilot group is clouding your judgement...Its management you should have your beef with...My beef is with pilots who think they're entitled to something they haven't worked for, aka the rjdc pukes!
737

Come on 737Pylt, we live in an entitlement society. Where have you been. Stop giving the slackers a hard time!

 

[737 Pylt]

Come on 737Pylt, we live in an entitlement society. Where have you been. Stop giving the slackers a hard time!

That's no BS....I hate to see anyone lose their job! Even an rjdc puke. However, I will and can NOT ever support them in their crusade!

 

[N2264J]

Re: Delta Pilots Coming AFter DCI Flying

Apparently they haven't made any progress in curing you and your pals in the RJDC of your crazy delusions. Keep sending those checks! The lawyers need some fancy new suits to wear to the court when your final claim gets thrown out!

If the lawsuit has no merit, why are you obsessed with it? If it is sure to be thrown out, why do you care what we do with our money?

Now that depositions have started, it's getting harder to tell the difference between confidence and fear in our detractors.

 

[PCL_128]

If the lawsuit has no merit, why are you obsessed with it? If it is sure to be thrown out, why do you care what we do with our money?

Your silly little lawsuit is wasting the Association's time and resources. You are distracting the Association from the important things going on. I could care less how you waste your own money, as long as it doesn't intefere with the business of my union.

 

[uba757]

PYLT not my fight. The RJDC does not matter to me at all. Now I have to choose to go back to CMR or not. I like flying my 727 but miss the benefits. LOL UBA757

 

[N2264J]

Your silly little lawsuit is wasting the Association's time and resources. You are distracting the Association from the important things going on. I could care less how you waste your own money, as long as it doesn't intefere with the business of my union.

Is the Duty of Fair Representation an important thing going on?

Is DFR interfering with the business of your union?

ALPA knows how to end it.

 

[737 Pylt]

PYLT not my fight. The RJDC does not matter to me at all. Now I have to choose to go back to CMR or not. I like flying my 727 but miss the benefits. LOL UBA757

UBA:
its not an easy decision. If by benefits, you're talking travel, our perks aren't worth the paper they're written on. I don't know what kind of health benefits CMR offers, but ours at DL have gone down (service) while the price keeps going up. I flew the 727 for a short while, and it was the easiest job on the planet. Unless you're real unhappy where you are (I'm assuming a cargo outfit) I would leave this mess they call the "Delta family" alone!
JMHO
737

 

[uba757]

Pylt having paper pass benefits is much, much better than what we have now. There is no medical so with a baby thats another $500.00 out of my pocket a month. I make more money here but I also see a great deal more not making it to the bank. UBA757

 

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The lawyers need some fancy new suits to wear to the court when your final claim gets thrown out!

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever seen Mike Haber? George Clooney doesn't have anything to worry about.

Since you know everything, which was first, the Chicken, or the Egg?

Is ALPA going to kill of Mesaba so they can divert the jobs to NWA furloughees?

 

[PCL_128]

Since you know everything, which was first, the Chicken, or the Egg?

The chicken.

Is ALPA going to kill of Mesaba so they can divert the jobs to NWA furloughees?

No.

Anything else I can help you with tonight?

 

[737 Pylt]

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever seen Mike Haber? George Clooney doesn't have anything to worry about.

Since you know everything, which was first, the Chicken, or the Egg?

Is ALPA going to kill of Mesaba so they can divert the jobs to NWA furloughees?

Fins:
Listen to yourself....Even someone with limited knowledge such as you can see that your group (the rjdc) is gasping for air. That's why all the continued litigation updates, request for documents, and of course the ever famous "industry updates." If anyone should be crying wolf here it is the jr. folks at the majors. They have taken it in the shorts worse than any group yet you group of morons continue this fruitless crusade! Who is getting hurt by scope? The legacy carriers junior pilots are, yet we all know just how important scope is! DL's scope is a joke you and I both know it. Your lawsuit is doing nothing more than wasting yours and my money where those funds could be better used fighting the real enemy, management. Its just too bad guys like you, df, ja, jb and the rest of the circle jerk kings continue on this path, yet further dividing our pilot groups. Hey man, have at it. Whatever makes you smile! Haber is laughing at you girls all the way to the bank, but just so long as you continue to contribute to his cause!
737

 

[BenderGonzales]

I've got to agree with 737. During the best of times the courts might have looked at this suit since career expectations may have appeared to be impacted. Since 09/11 however the RJ pilot has had career expectations and job security that have far exceeded those of just about any "mainline" pilot.

If I was the judge i'd be confused about just what you're trying to achieve.

In fact, i'm NOT the judge and I cant figure out for the life of me what you're trying to achieve? What flying exactly do you want the right to "bid" for?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Bender:

The suit is about representation. Some ALPA members get to negotiate with their employers, others don't. We believe we should have the right to negotiate our pay and working conditions with our employers.

ALPA has taken action to stop us from doing so. The letters and documentation are posted on the RJDC we site. ALPA also has jerrymandered the Executive Board and Constitution and Bylaws to offer some members a preferred status over other members.

I believe a union should bring employees together to negotiate their wages and working conditions. ALPA has set its course to divide employees and empower one MEC to enter into predatory negotiations to take from other ALPA members.

By the way, does anyone have the ALPA flyers that the Delta pilots have been passing out against small jets saying ALPA does not want regional carriers flying Delta passengers. I've been hearing reports, but I would like my very own copy of my union funded effort to harm my profession.

Regional pilots do not bid on anything. But we would like equal access to ALPA's representational tools, like scope, so we can try to stop the race for the bottom.

By the way, I was joking in my post about Haber, but 737pilot is humorless. At least I got something from my "relationship" with Delta. I had my Delta shirt on today (that they gave me for working on Ship 41 years ago) and walked into a store looking for a watch battery. They changed the battery in my dive watch and said, "no charge, we hope things work out for you over there." 737 Pilot can surely see the irony in the proudest and most highly paid pilots on planet earth now being pitied by employees at discount stores.

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[~~~^~~~]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

737

So how has your MEC changed. Is getting more radical and doing the same thing with more vigor the answer?

 

[Thedude]

When did a contractors (RJDC) start making the rules?

 

[~~~^~~~]

When did a contractors (RJDC) start making the rules?

So is your point that contractors have no rights to representation? That is ALPA's position.

 

[737 Pylt]

Bender:

The suit is about representation.

Wrong, but we always expect that from spinners such as yourself, JB (or is it joe merchant), N2246J and the likes... The lawsuit is about GREED, always has been and always will be. If it was about DFR, then in the origional lawsuit, why the ludicrous amount of $$ sought!

ALPA has taken action to stop us from doing so. The letters and documentation are posted on the RJDC we site. ALPA also has jerrymandered the Executive Board and Constitution and Bylaws to offer some members a preferred status over other members.

Spun to your content no doubt! Answer this, how many lec/mec meetings have you attended? Have you tried anything other than this frivilous lawsuit? Probably not, but your pathetic circle jerk of friends over at the rjdc promised all you morons you'd all be 777 captains with $$millions in your pockets! Easy way out! You go, keep sending your checks to Haber, he's laughing at you idiots all the way to the bank!

I believe a union should bring employees together to negotiate their wages and working conditions. ALPA has set its course to divide employees and empower one MEC to enter into predatory negotiations to take from other ALPA members.

I agree with the first sentence, but then you got on your soap box again. One thing you have a real hard time understanding: If it is DL flying, then it is subject to the Delta Pilots' PWA. What you should be worrying about is a little scope protection of your own.

By the way, does anyone have the ALPA flyers that the Delta pilots have been passing out against small jets saying ALPA does not want regional carriers flying Delta passengers. I've been hearing reports, but I would like my very own copy of my union funded effort to harm my profession.

Wow you pukes get more pathetic every day. There are no such flyers, but hey, if the rjdc said it, then it must be true then! You really are getting desparate hun fins? And the only people harming the profession are bozo's such as yourself trying to destroy this profession. If (and you won't be) you were successful in eliminating scope, kiss this lousy profession goodbye. Its already in the toilet, you just want to make sure it stays there!

Regional pilots do not bid on anything. But we would like equal access to ALPA's representational tools, like scope, so we can try to stop the race for the bottom.

With your managment types doing the RFP's then you have issues with them not ALPA.

By the way, I was joking in my post about Haber, but 737pilot is humorless. At least I got something from my "relationship" with Delta. I had my Delta shirt on today (that they gave me for working on Ship 41 years ago) and walked into a store looking for a watch battery. They changed the battery in my dive watch and said, "no charge, we hope things work out for you over there." 737 Pilot can surely see the irony in the proudest and most highly paid pilots on planet earth now being pitied by employees at discount stores.

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I find it funny that you hate everything about the DL mainline pilots, yet you don't mind passing yourself off as one. Let me guess, on your way to the airport, you stop in the fast food store in your uniform as well, and tell all the chicks you're a "Delta pilot." Congrats, besides being in the loser category, you now fall into the "dork" category as well!

So how has your MEC changed. Is getting more radical and doing the same thing with more vigor the answer?

New leadership. We'll see....You should be more worried about the paycuts that SKYW management is trying to force on your pilot group after 3 years of negotiations for a pay raise. I still can't understand why people like you are so obsessed with what goes on on OUR campus when you have bigger fish to fry. All you are doing with your rjdc BS is causing a distraction where it doesn't need to be!
737

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Although not a factor in the DAL/DCI situation, at least not yet, is ALPA's Jets For Jobs programs. ALPA's eagerness to abrogate seniority at the US Air feeders and now at NWA feeders is particularly troubling. SkyWest is the only example of Jets For Jobs done correctly. The UAL furloughees enjoy some extra pay courtesy of UAL but there is no violation of seniority. Seniority should never be screwed around with. ALPA's sanctioning of seniority violations is abominable and should never have been allowed.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

You should be more worried about the paycuts that SKYW management is trying to force on your pilot group after 3 years of negotiations for a pay raise.

Really!? I know many pilots at SkyWest and I haven't heard a word about paycuts. In fact SKYW pilots still get some sort of bonus based on net profits as well as some smaller bonuses tied to a variety of performance indices. In some cases that bonus adds 4-7 bucks per hour to the effective gross pay. Can you tell us more about these paycuts that managment is trying to force on the SKYW pilot group? I might need to warn some of my friends at SkyWest. They must be out of the loop or something. Funny that we'd find out about it from a DAL pilot and not from someone who actually would have a clue.

 

[737 Pylt]

Really!? I know many pilots at SkyWest and I haven't heard a word about paycuts. In fact SKYW pilots still get some sort of bonus based on net profits as well as some smaller bonuses tied to a variety of performance indices. In some cases that bonus adds 4-7 bucks per hour to the effective gross pay. Can you tell us more about these paycuts that managment is trying to force on the SKYW pilot group? I might need to warn some of my friends at SkyWest. They must be out of the loop or something. Funny that we'd find out about it from a DAL pilot and not from someone who actually would have a clue.

UH....Lets see, is your name fins?? Was this directed at you?? If you have friends, it must suck for them, this was directed at an ASA pilot! Shouldn't you be directing some of your hatred towards the General... And lay off the hand lotion, too much of what you do will hurt your eye sight!
737

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Maybe you should be more clear when you write.
When I saw SKYW I thought you were talking about the SKYW pilot group.
There is no hatred in my posts. I don't hate anyone. In fact I kind of feel sorry for you and guys like GL. I've got a side business and a wife making good coin. I enjoy my job but if it disappeared or I lost my medical I wouldn't be hurting too badly. At worst I'd have to sell an investment property. If DAL tanks you'll be donning that Wal-Mart greeter uniform assuming they don't perform a personality test of some sort. If they do some sort of personality screening or psych profile you'll probably be in the stockroom stacking boxes. I can predict that just based on the vitriol in your posts. Have a nice life. Maybe I should go over the Major's forum and insult some people now.

Guys like you are the best fundraising tool RJDC could ask for. Keep up the good work. I'm not even a big fan of RJDC but you could help me change my mind.

 

[737 Pylt]

Deleted, not worth it!

 

[General Leeast]

In fact I kind of feel sorry for you and guys like GL.

Don't feel sorry for me. I have 737 looking out for me. He and I are very tight, if you know what I mean. He loves guy's like me that are forty yr. old, 6'4", 100lbs soking wet lurch look-a-likes. I fly "my" 767 to the islands, with my hot wife. Soon to be an md-80 captain. Lurch. Hot wife. My 767. Can't give up scope. Ron Reber is my bud over at SKYW. I'm soaking wet. So dont debate me. Bye-Bye General Least