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Delta Pilot Deal Allows Huge Increase In 70-Seat Flying

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utahpilot

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-does this mean comair and asa will effectively fly 25% of Delta's flights?

Source: Aviation Daily

Delta is following United and US Airways in gaining scope relief from its pilots to add larger regional jets in its regional network, with the potential to add more than 500 planes by 2009.

Pilots at Delta ratified a five-year deal earlier this month to help the carrier avoid bankruptcy. Contract details included an increase in Delta Connection flying to 50% of Delta's flights, with wholly owned subsidiaries Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) and Comair flying half those flights.

ASA pilot union leaders recently told their members that scope changes in Delta's contract call for adding 82 70-seat jets next year, 106 in 2006 and 125 per year from 2007 to 2009. The old agreement capped Delta's 70-seat flying at 58 planes.

Any Delta Connection carrier can fly the jets as long as it agrees to preferential hiring for furloughed Delta pilots. In addition to ASA and Comair, SkyWest, American Eagle and Chautauqua all fly as Delta Connection. Comair, ASA and SkyWest operate 70-seat CRJ-700s. SkyWest currently flies its -700s under the United banner. Chautauqua recently started flying the 70-seat Embraer 170 as United Express.
 
No one seems to know what it means. ASA and Comair are guaranteed 50% of DCI flying as long as we are wholly owned.


I am sure they want a bidding war, but I am confident neither us or ASA will accomodate them.
 
utahpilot said:
Contract details included an increase in Delta Connection flying to 50% of Delta's flights, with wholly owned subsidiaries Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) and Comair flying half those flights.

ASA pilot union leaders recently told their members that scope changes in Delta's contract call for adding 82 70-seat jets next year, 106 in 2006 and 125 per year from 2007 to 2009. The old agreement capped Delta's 70-seat flying at 58 planes.
ASA and Comair are guaranteed 50% of DCI flying as long as we are wholly owned.
These numbers are all in correct! First, the TA allows for mandates that ASA/Comair get 25% off all Delta flying as long as they are wholely owned subsidiaries. This is not 25% each, its 25% together ...not 50% as a whole. The TA is set up so that 75% of the flying is flown by a Delta company (ie. Mainline 50% and ASA/CMR 25%) and 25% can be farmed out to other companies such as CHQ or skywest or whoever...

Also incorrect in the post was the info about the 70 seaters. The numbers are correct, however, these are not jets that can be added but are total jets in the system allowed...in other words, 57 which is the total now can be increased TO 82 not BY 82. The effective increase would be 25 added 70's in 05...and so forth.
 
simple math guys. delta connection gets to do 50% of all delta flying and asa and comair do 25% of all delta flying so this means asa and comair do 50 % of all delta connection flying. Now i must go to work and let my brain recover
 
That article wsa a misprint, there is supposed to be a correction coming out by the end of the week or something.

Launchpad
 
What this really means is once again mainline will shrink or not grow so a cheaper sub contractor can do the work. It is all about outsourcing, DAL just outsources it to one of the DCI connectors and collects the revenue. Cheaper labor gets the job done so why not???

Once again the industry is a race to the bottom and WE all are to blame!
 

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