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When and where do the results post?
 

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Typically the next day...rarely more than 2 days.
 

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If you are awarded something then it will show up in icrew/ecrew... otherwise the results are posted on the Deltanet under Pilot Resources & Scheduling.
 

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Sweet, I must say the sooner we get back to the NWA APA system the better for all. Every aspect of the AE bid is in managements favor, they run it when they want, they can cancel it, they can convert you when they want....weird?
 

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Sweet, I must say the sooner we get back to the NWA APA system the better for all. Every aspect of the AE bid is in managements favor, they run it when they want, they can cancel it, they can convert you when they want....weird?
I don't mind the AE system.... but it does sound like the APA is quite superior.


Now if we can just get rid of that stupid 500 foot call.

Make sure the PM is alert and responsive? Seriously....
 
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The nice thing about the APA is you always knew 4 months in advance where you were going and could always look forward to a chance to change every month. It seems like it would be a lot easier for the company to adjust up and down with constant training as opposed to huge shifts of manpower and guesswork.
 

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Now if we can just get rid of that stupid 500 foot call.

Make sure the PM is alert and responsive? Seriously....
Agreed. It wasn't our call...we thought it was yours. No? Non- Flying Cubicle dwellers run amok again...
 

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I don't mind the AE system.... but it does sound like the APA is quite superior.


Now if we can just get rid of that stupid 500 foot call.

Make sure the PM is alert and responsive? Seriously....
I was under the impression that it was the PF alertness, not the PM.
 

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After DL/NWA soc is complete, will the new DL PWA use the Old NWA APA or will it use the current DL AE system??
 

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Agreed. It wasn't our call...we thought it was yours. No? Non- Flying Cubicle dwellers run amok again...

It is a modification from the 200 to touchdown call at DAL-N.

DAL-S didn't want one... -N insisted. This was the compromise.


From what it sounds like, those meetings of the cubicle dwellers got pretty heated at times, haha. People like their empires....
 

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They say that 500' call is to confirm that you are configured, and with in the stabilized parameters for landing. (Oh yeah and that the PF is still alive and kicking)
 

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The nice thing about the APA is you always knew 4 months in advance where you were going and could always look forward to a chance to change every month. It seems like it would be a lot easier for the company to adjust up and down with constant training as opposed to huge shifts of manpower and guesswork.

One thing that the APAs allowed was bidding from base to base to get better flying each season. If some senior guy living in the DFW area wanted to fly more Europe stuff in the Summer, he might bid DTW 755. If the Asia stuff flew out of MSP more in the Winter, he would bid MSP 755 and do 12 day intra Asia stuff. That pretty much kept the senior guys from upgrading, and never allowed junior people a chance at the better trips. Just when you thought you might be able to hold a sweet trip, bam, 15 senior guys move in for the season. Well, that is now gone. Time to pick a base and probably stay there at least a year. With an AE, you will know where you stand for the whole year. No more squatters.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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They say that 500' call is to confirm that you are configured, and with in the stabilized parameters for landing. (Oh yeah and that the PF is still alive and kicking)

That's what was officially released. What I posted was actually what happened...
 

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One thing that the APAs allowed was bidding from base to base to get better flying each season. If some senior guy living in the DFW area wanted to fly more Europe stuff in the Summer, he might bid DTW 755. If the Asia stuff flew out of MSP more in the Winter, he would bid MSP 755 and do 12 day intra Asia stuff. That pretty much kept the senior guys from upgrading, and never allowed junior people a chance at the better trips. Just when you thought you might be able to hold a sweet trip, bam, 15 senior guys move in for the season. Well, that is now gone. Time to pick a base and probably stay there at least a year. With an AE, you will know where you stand for the whole year. No more squatters.


Bye Bye---General Lee
I'd much rather have the APA system. We should be taking the best of each operation.... the APA is obviously superior.
 

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Hopefully after the dust settles ALPA can go for a best practices contract and bring back some of the great parts of our old contract and combine them with the Delta goodies. The move benefit was awesome at NWA but is unbelievably restrictive at DAL.
 

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Reserve rules at Delta are a nice improvement with the exception of the 5 hour pay cut in guarantee.
 

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Any news on when the DAL-N AE results are going to be out??
 
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