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These are the first couple of trips in one month. This is typical.

Oak lax
Lax abq
Abq lax 18 hr stay

Lax oak
Oak pdx 24 hr stay

Pdx oak
Oak sna
Sna oak

Block 12.5
Pays 20


Oak lax
Lax oak
OakSlc 19 hrs stay

Slc phx
Phx sat
Sat san 14.5 hr stay

San aus
Aus oak

17.5 block (yuck!)
Pays 21


GL, you're friends, are they brand-new that they get stuck with 5 leg trips? Im about 5 yr seniority. That's not even half way up the FO seniority. (crazy!) If it blocks more, then a 3 day normally pays 22-24.

Im a fan of DL. It's a great company and I enjoy their product.


I do enjoy staying close to home and working for SWA. It's also a great place to be, and the schedule is flexible. I can work high hours for high dollars, or take it easy for 19.5 3day trip.

Last year,

600 block
138K where it says 'total gross pay'
A lot of days off. Average 18.

It's a great gig for me.
 
The fact that we have Delta pilots saying how great things are is why we can't be paid what we were back in 2000.

We have plenty of crappy trips int'l that pay low and are unproductive.

The company pulls out the rest facilities for example on the 330 and Delta pilots don't blink and sit in the back with the passengers.

Our pay "raise" is funded by a reduction in profit sharing....how stupid is that?

Now we are making billions!

Don't believe the rose colored glasses.

Db

Kind of like when you bring up the Dakar or Accra overnight to the General and he stays 'those are JFK overnights', so be basically he doesn't care. He's got his. Same with the domestic lines. He could care less about low they pay or how bad the rig. If you don't like it, don't bid it in his world. But wait, someone has to fly it!

I never understood why they cut the profit sharing back and voted in even larger RJs, especially when all the CRJ200's needed to be re-engine'd on Delta's dime. Several million dollars (read leverage) and DALPA gave them a pass. Sad really.
 
Kind of like when you bring up the Dakar or Accra overnight to the General and he stays 'those are JFK overnights', so be basically he doesn't care. He's got his. Same with the domestic lines. He could care less about low they pay or how bad the rig. If you don't like it, don't bid it in his world. But wait, someone has to fly it!

I never understood why they cut the profit sharing back and voted in even larger RJs, especially when all the CRJ200's needed to be re-engine'd on Delta's dime. Several million dollars (read leverage) and DALPA gave them a pass. Sad really.


Redflyer:
Spot on, most people get it but the koolaide level is at Jim Jones strength for some. (guess who)

Junior guys forced to fly to the African shi#holes with no extra pay for malaria exposure...

Plenty of extra special deals for the hometown insiders as well.

It is a poisoned well.


We left millions of back pay on the table, lost profit sharing, the list goes on...

Complain? Dalpa's response was shut down our forum.
Pull up the rope.

Don't rock the boat I got mine.

Db
 
These are the first couple of trips in one month. This is typical.

Oak lax
Lax abq
Abq lax 18 hr stay

Lax oak
Oak pdx 24 hr stay

Pdx oak
Oak sna
Sna oak

Block 12.5
Pays 20


Oak lax
Lax oak
OakSlc 19 hrs stay

Slc phx
Phx sat
Sat san 14.5 hr stay

San aus
Aus oak

17.5 block (yuck!)
Pays 21


GL, you're friends, are they brand-new that they get stuck with 5 leg trips? Im about 5 yr seniority. That's not even half way up the FO seniority. (crazy!) If it blocks more, then a 3 day normally pays 22-24.

Im a fan of DL. It's a great company and I enjoy their product.


I do enjoy staying close to home and working for SWA. It's also a great place to be, and the schedule is flexible. I can work high hours for high dollars, or take it easy for 19.5 3day trip.

Last year,

600 block
138K where it says 'total gross pay'
A lot of days off. Average 18.

It's a great gig for me.


Those look like very productive trips, most of ours aren't even close to that....
Db
 
The fact that we have Delta pilots saying how great things are is why we can't be paid what we were back in 2000.

We have plenty of crappy trips int'l that pay low and are unproductive.

The company pulls out the rest facilities for example on the 330 and Delta pilots don't blink and sit in the back with the passengers.

Our pay "raise" is funded by a reduction in profit sharing....how stupid is that?

Now we are making billions!

Don't believe the rose colored glasses.

Db


Are you junior in category? You should bid something that makes you senior in a smaller plane. Btw, the DL pilots are in the middle of a 3 year contract that did give an almost 20% raise, and with these profits, there is a great chance for MORE and better work rules to boot. It's going to continue to improve, and Consolidation has helped make everyone stronger and more profitable. Throw in 5,000 retirements in the next 10 years, and yeah, it's getting better.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
These are the first couple of trips in one month. This is typical.

Oak lax
Lax abq
Abq lax 18 hr stay

Lax oak
Oak pdx 24 hr stay

Pdx oak
Oak sna
Sna oak

Block 12.5
Pays 20


Oak lax
Lax oak
OakSlc 19 hrs stay

Slc phx
Phx sat
Sat san 14.5 hr stay

San aus
Aus oak

17.5 block (yuck!)
Pays 21


GL, you're friends, are they brand-new that they get stuck with 5 leg trips? Im about 5 yr seniority. That's not even half way up the FO seniority. (crazy!) If it blocks more, then a 3 day normally pays 22-24.

Im a fan of DL. It's a great company and I enjoy their product.


I do enjoy staying close to home and working for SWA. It's also a great place to be, and the schedule is flexible. I can work high hours for high dollars, or take it easy for 19.5 3day trip.

Last year,

600 block
138K where it says 'total gross pay'
A lot of days off. Average 18.

It's a great gig for me.

That is great you enjoy it. I'm glad for you. My friends tend to work pretty busy 3 and 4 day trips, and most have plenty of legs. To me, that sounds tiring. The older I get, the fewer legs I want to fly. Your trips can be super productive, but an INTL 2 leg trip with three or more pilots seems a heck of a lot easier. Staying close to home is important to some for different reasons, but I can "face to face " call with my smart phone from Dayton or Dusseldorf. You just have to be aware of the local time back home. When I fly, I want to walk up to the gate and look at the Widebody at the gate and read "Buenos Aires" or "Paris CDG". That means I'm actually "going somewhere." But, I'm glad you enjoy your job, and I mainly post to remind perspective wannabes the differences between different airlines. Getting hired at your LAST airline is very important, and you need to be well informed. Thanks for your post.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
But it'll fall on deaf ears- at delta you're not a real pilot until your flying "heavy iron"

They stood out in High School as the dorks who didn't fit in, bullied and insecure. They swore that one day they would show everyone, now they talk about the only thing they can point to in their pathetic lives, Mother Delto. How do you know that your neighbor is a Delto pilot, don't worry, he'll let you know.
 
They stood out in High School as the dorks who didn't fit in, bullied and insecure. They swore that one day they would show everyone, now they talk about the only thing they can point to in their pathetic lives, Mother Delto. How do you know that your neighbor is a Delto pilot, don't worry, he'll let you know.

Obbbbbsessss much? Caution Wake Turbulence! You are soooo jealous it hurts, I bet. Oh well. You can always apply, lots of retirements coming up.

How do you know your neighbor is a Corndog? He's the guy wearing his Fonzi jacket, looking exhausted, driving his Porsche around the neighborhood mumbling "one more Lubbock layover and I'll puke. What was that website to apply to a Worldwide airline again?"



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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