Delta lands on M in the ATL

[OneBadLT123]

No excuses. They were relieved of duty, pending investigation. It was a "MAJOR" error; plain and simple.

http://www.danielsjourney.com/blog/files/2007/12/fry-see-what-you-did-there-scaled.jpg

 

[screamingpax]

Thank god nobody got hurt. Not going to lie to you though, this is funny as $h;t. Awesome guys.

 

[DoinTime]

Careful where you go throwing your rocks everybody.

Can we throw rocks at these guys who overflew MSP tonight at cruise altitude without an ATC clearance?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA188

 

[SEVEN]

Can we throw rocks at these guys who overflew MSP tonight at cruise altitude without an ATC clearance?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA188

Is this legit? Did a couple of NWA Mainline guys pull a Mesa and overfly the intended airport? YIKES!!!

 

[General Lee]

Maybe the airplane WOULDN'T LET THEM LAND......it was an airbus ya know.... you betcha!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Long Time Gone]

ASAP at DAL is gone due to multiple issues, but in particular a specific 757 CA who repeatedly had tail strikes and then ASAPed it.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

ASAP at DAL is gone due to multiple issues, but in particular a specific 757 CA who repeatedly had tail strikes and then ASAPed it.

Wrong. ASAP is back as of about 6 months ago. FOQA is back as well.


As far as the NWA bus "overflying MSP" ...this is the only site to have it. Even airnerders.net hasn't gotten to it yet. It will be interesting to see what really happened. Something doesn't look right as they didnt come straight back in or join an arrival.

 

[crj567]

Wrong. ASAP is back as of about 6 months ago. FOQA is back as well.


As far as the NWA bus "overflying MSP" ...this is the only site to have it. Even airnerders.net hasn't gotten to it yet. It will be interesting to see what really happened. Something doesn't look right as they didnt come straight back in or join an arrival.

-Because they were "nite-nite."

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

-Because they were "nite-nite."

Certainly a possibility...but something doesn't look right about the return after they "woke up."

 

[DoinTime]

As far as the NWA bus "overflying MSP" ...this is the only site to have it. Even airnerders.net hasn't gotten to it yet. It will be interesting to see what really happened. Something doesn't look right as they didnt come straight back in or join an arrival.

Looks to me like they joined the Gopher arrival to a downwind to rwy 35. It did only happen a few hours ago and only those who over heard it on the radio would know. I'm sure it will be big news in the next few days.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Yeah it will be all over the place if it's what it looks like.

The weird thing is that from the time they started their descent finally to landing was over 50 minutes. Other times I've seen stuff like this they've turned around and gotten down quick.

 

[Crizz]

They didnt start their descent or slow down until they "woke up" either. If they were on an atc assigned delayed vector for traffic saturation, I dont know a single crew in the world that would continue trucking at cruise speed AWAY from their destination.

No doubt this will be a media frenzy very soon.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Yup... they were out. I know we're not single operating certificate yet, but just because one side makes a bonehead move doesn't mean the other should as well....

 

[DirtySowf]

Wind check!

 

[OneBadLT123]

Can we throw rocks at these guys who overflew MSP tonight at cruise altitude without an ATC clearance?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA188

Holy crap... I heard about this in the office, but I thought it was just hearsay.

 

[777forever]

We need another kneejerk gov't reaction to fix this problem of inexperience and unprofessionalism at the airlines. 25,000 hrs min and a Space shuttle type rating to be a mainline pilot.....

 

[bigshooter107]

How long is final?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

anyone think it may have just been becasue of traffic/construction/weather? Maybe ATC sent them out to EAU and back in on that arrival for the sake of traffic flows. That way they didn't tie up needed airspace on the west side with an AC holding for an hour. Just sayin, it's possible.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

anyone think it may have just been becasue of traffic/construction/weather? Maybe ATC sent them out to EAU and back in on that arrival for the sake of traffic flows. That way they didn't tie up needed airspace on the west side with an AC holding for an hour. Just sayin, it's possible.

I'd love to be able to blame that, and that was my first thought with the way things looked... unfortunately the reports indicate they were "out of communication."

 

[Crizz]

anyone think it may have just been becasue of traffic/construction/weather? Maybe ATC sent them out to EAU and back in on that arrival for the sake of traffic flows. That way they didn't tie up needed airspace on the west side with an AC holding for an hour. Just sayin, it's possible.

Its possible.

But they stayed at the same altitude, airspeed, and heading after the last fix on that arrival. Why would they continue AWAY from their destination at cruise speed? Also look at arrivals at that same time. Most held at a fix on their arrival. Some went straight in. None were vectored a half state away.

I hope these guys were at the end of a 14 hour duty day and this gives some more emphasis to work rule changes.