Delta Had A Great Quarter

[Tomct]

Do you know something I don't?

SWA 12 Capt 198
DAL 12 MD88 Capt 140

DAL 12 777 Capt 188

Yeah...I think he has had 1 to many "midnight skies" enroute!

 

[RedDogC130]

Please. You are making yourself look the fool. We took concessions because there was a gun to our head. I made more last year than a SWA 12 year captain. I will make more this year than a SWA 12 year captain. I will make more next year than a SWA 12 year captain. This as an MD 88 captain. It is what it is. The honeymoon is ending at SWA. Oil is becoming a real factor, and the junior groups are starting to want theirs. Hanging on the bar is not going to work much longer at SWA.

Back up what you say. How much per hour do you get paid as a max MD-88 Captain? Have the guts to come clean.

I do realize this is me vs you or us verus them....the fact that there is competition in this industry is a fact. We all can all hope for the best for the other team. Then we lose. There is not enough room on the field for everyone....someone will lose. I just hope it is not my team...if it is yours sorry for your
luck.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

This with record oil prices! Is the LCC SWA fuel hedge advantage over?

Actually, the fuel hedges at SWA are never over. GK says that the hedges are constantly being worked and re-worked...and still working on more hedging deals.

Far as I know, the Fuel purchase office is still manned. They don't just sit around all day and play computer games.

 

[Pat Fabin]

I really enjoy being reminded that I took concessions. Especially by people that haven't had that misfortune in their careers yet. I was furloughed for 3 years too...need to remind me about that?

Fact is, we took concessions and at this point it is up to management to drive and make use of the savings. So far they seem to be doing a good job. It'd be a far bleaker picture right now if we were still losing money after giving so much.

We have had generally top-tier contracts and I look forward to the day when we can negotiate another one.

 

[FlyingSig]

I really enjoy being reminded that I took concessions. Especially by people that haven't had that misfortune in their careers yet. I was furloughed for 3 years too...need to remind me about that?

Fact is, we took concessions and at this point it is up to management to drive and make use of the savings. So far they seem to be doing a good job. It'd be a far bleaker picture right now if we were still losing money after giving so much.

We have had generally top-tier contracts and I look forward to the day when we can negotiate another one.

What he said....

 

[anewunion]

DAL lowering the bar ?. Let's be serious...

 

[GuppyWN]

It didn't take long for this thread to hit rock bottom.

Gup

 

[328dude]

I agree. I was thinking what good news this was for the Delta types as was going to congrat them, but once again, someone throws out the SWA sucks card. How come nobody compares two airlines to anyone else but SWA? Continental is doing good too you know.

Look.....my slong is bigger than your slong. I like Tator Tots.

 

[General Lee]

Amazing what can be done when you dont pay your bills, employees and pensions promissed. I wouldnt say the hedge advantage is over. Just think of the lean machine SWA would be if it to declared BK. You forget thats how Delta got its savings? By screwing its share holders, vendors and employees. Way to go! Congrats on working so hard for those profits. I wonder what managements piece of that will be? I know GL you got a few bucks added to your 401k, I am going to LBB and flying 8 legs to get their and all I will ever fly is a 737.

Any company is allowed to file Chap 11 in the United States, not just airlines. Even people are allowed to file it for themselves. Would you rather just shoot them dead on the spot? What would be worse that that you ask? How about 6 legs from ONT to MSY via PHX, ABQ, LBB, AUS, HOU, and DAL?

Yes, we did get a lot of bucks for our 401K(up to $88,000 for 06/07 and then I got another $100,000 in cash after taxes), and that makes up for SOME of the loss, but it is a lot better than USAir got (a $4400 Xmas bonus). If your airline ever has problems, it is good to know that there can be a second chance, and even a third for some (USAir). It is the American dream buddy. If you want to be a commie, then go to Aeroflot, I am sure they are hiring guys with LBB experience.(about as remote as Siberia, right?)

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I agree. I was thinking what good news this was for the Delta types as was going to congrat them, but once again, someone throws out the SWA sucks card. How come nobody compares two airlines to anyone else but SWA? Continental is doing good too you know.

Look.....my slong is bigger than your slong. I like Tator Tots.

Did you notice who started this? Not me. But, if it is brought up, I will give my opinion again. When will some of you guys learn?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[328dude]

How about 6 legs from ONT to MSY via PHX, ABQ, LBB, AUS, HOU, and DAL?

Yes, we did get a lot of bucks for our 401K(up to $88,000 for 06/07 and then I got another $100,000 in cash after taxes), and that makes up for SOME of the loss, but it is a lot better than USAir got (a $4400 Xmas bonus).
Bye Bye--General Lee

You must have this same line hard copied on your computer. Not bad actually, only two pages long before you threw out the same ol.....d.......yawn..........zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[General Lee]

You must have this same line hard copied on your computer. Not bad actually, only two pages long before you threw out the same ol.....d.......yawn..........zzzzzzzzzzz

Sleeping are you? Looking at your trips in your bid packet? Kinda boring probably. Makes you tired just thinking about all of those legs too. And, everything I wrote is true. Wow.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Wicked-Picket]

I really enjoy being reminded that I took concessions. Especially by people that haven't had that misfortune in their careers yet. I was furloughed for 3 years too...need to remind me about that?

Fact is, we took concessions and at this point it is up to management to drive and make use of the savings. So far they seem to be doing a good job. It'd be a far bleaker picture right now if we were still losing money after giving so much.

We have had generally top-tier contracts and I look forward to the day when we can negotiate another one.

You obviously need to be reminded of why you were out for 3 years. During that time , your "Brothers" had RECORD numbers of Green Slips and vacation sellbacks, while relieving their guilt by contributing a few measly dollars to the Relief Fund. The management loved it. So too, did ALPA. So much so that some Officers often picked up green slips for the very trips that they originally dropped for ALPA work!
Not only will Delta squander any concession that you made, so will your Association, if it means that some will profit wildly. Just like the management always does. Who will be the connon fodder when the merger happens? Oh yeah, the new team says it will "consider what's best for the employees", so once again the pilots will feel secure in the knowledge that this time around, there really is a management team that cares. Sheeeeesh! Hang on my friend, it's going to be a bumpy ride. All I ever heard about SWA while I was doing ALPA work were negative predictions. Until, that is, we started down the BK trail. Then we were begging for a SWA pay structure, and schedule efficiencies. Delta people are notorious for telling everyone else what they are doing wrong, while their own house crumbles around them.

 

[Pat Fabin]

Wicked,

Aviation can be a dirty rotten filthy business....so can most other professions. All of us here at DAL have made our decisions to stay or pursue other things. There isn't a person here (save for a few starry-eyed newhires) that doesn't understand the negatives of this business. Aviation does not have the patent on hippocracy and corruption...it can be found many places.

I choose not to to spend my working years mad at the world.

Meanwhile, I enjoy my time in Nice.

 

[slapstick]

most of us newhires have been around the airline industry for awhile, dealing with our former airline's problems. So you can stop calling us "starry-eyed"