Delta Connection pilots unite on pay, work rule issues

[GearUpLightsIn]

Regional airlines are supposed to be a stepping stone to the majors. Pilots need to use them for what they are, leave and don't look back. Management has ZERO incentive to increase wages and benefits because they KNOW that litterally thousands of young CFI and academy grads are chomping at the bit to get on there and get the required 1000 PIC so they can advance to their goal major.

You did notice that the "majors" that you have been talking about have been in a little trouble these last few years, right? Airtran, Jetblue, SWA, UPS FEDEX, Cont: all hiring, but look at how many regional pilots there are that are way more qualified than you. When you get your 1000 PIC there will still be 1000's of regional pilots more qualified than you and that have people walking in their resumes. It isn't the late 90's and you can't just step on through the regionals like the vast majority of us at the regionals might like to. There are just as many regional pilots chomping at the bit to get one of those "major" jobs as there are CFI's waiting to get your current job.

But put that aside for a minute. Let's say you get your 1000 PIC and get a job at your "goal major". The fact that you were so willing to take so little in compensation at a regional has now hurt you at a major. You can't get the compensation that you now feel that you (rightfully) deserve at your goal airline because the proportional difference in compensation between you and the regional pilot guy is so great. Better compensation at the regional level is in everyone's best interest regardless of where your career goals are.

 

[HarryParatestes]

Regional airlines are supposed to be a stepping stone to the majors. Pilots need to use them for what they are, leave and don't look back. Management has ZERO incentive to increase wages and benefits because they KNOW that litterally thousands of young CFI and academy grads are chomping at the bit to get on there and get the required 1000 PIC so they can advance to their goal major.

1000 hours of flying as a CFI in a 150 or 172? Get real. Get yourself a couple of thousand hours of 121 PIC and get on with an LCC. No legacy carrier (except CAL) is going to hire for at least five years.

 

[DrewBlows]

Close the hole that allows for these kids with 250 hours to fly jets (people will have to dire first before Congress gets off their collectives a$$es).

It's not the 250 hour guys that are voting themselves pay cuts. It's the guy who is making $100,000 a year and who thinks he can't make $80,000 anywhere else. I've talked to many of them.

 

[Newman55]

It's not the 250 hour guys that are voting themselves pay cuts. It's the guy who is making $100,000 a year and who thinks he can't make $80,000 anywhere else. I've talked to many of them.

Sorry drew but paycuts are the way to go. Its the future and the destiny of this industry. If you don't like it QUIT and go on tour with tha big snoop dogg

 

[~~~^~~~]

Regional airlines are supposed to be a stepping stone to the majors.

OK.... and your Avitar is an E170 in United colors, which is service replacement for a 737 and your name is "guppy killer"?

So what major job are you after? What you don't seem to realize is that you are performing that job now.

ALPA allowed all of this flying to go outside the brand's seniority list, then failed to allow anyone else to lock it in using scope, resulting in a free fall race for the bottom.

You are serving in the capacity of a major airline pilot now. You should realize that.

 

[BoilerUP]

Its amazing how a bunch of formerly "banned" names all belonging to out favorite group of flamers have recently reappeared once their name de jour has been banned...

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Regional airlines are supposed to be a stepping stone to the majors. Pilots need to use them for what they are, leave and don't look back. Management has ZERO incentive to increase wages and benefits because they KNOW that litterally thousands of young CFI and academy grads are chomping at the bit to get on there and get the required 1000 PIC so they can advance to their goal major.

That's great Guppy . except not everyone can leave for the majors. The reason s are as numerous as they are varied. But whatever the reason is, there will always be regionals and a need to insure that these pilot groups are fairly compensated.

I don;t have any hard data to support this, but I believe the days of the low time guys coming in won't last much longer. It will become the vapid wasteland it was in the early 90's again where flying jobs will become scarce. Once the pool of drooling SJS guys dries up well pretty much be in a better negotiating position.

 

[DrewBlows]

Sorry drew but paycuts are the way to go. Its the future and the destiny of this industry. If you don't like it QUIT and go on tour with tha big snoop dogg

Who peed in your Cheerios?

 

[Newman55]

Who peed in your Cheerios?

No one peed in my cheerios. This industry sucks. Everytime you try and do something like this someone like mesa always screws it up. It never works.

 

[FreightNazi]

Hey BoilerUP, are you the former Purdue intern that worked in 727 flt training?