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Dayjets closing doors TODAY

sckakids

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Word has it dayjets is done today...all airplanes moving to galveston. Surprised? given the recent article in USAtoday about their jets
 

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Word has it dayjets is done today...all airplanes moving to galveston. Surprised? given the recent article in USAtoday about their jets
Guess we are not talking about Galveston, TX ;).

Sorry to hear for those involved with DJ.
 

Hung Start

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I would have thought to move the aircraft to Galveston before the storm.

That would have been the smart and profitable thing to do.


Hung
 

sckakids

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oop meant gainesville...hehe sorry about that. thoughts go out to those that are losing their jobs
 

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One of our Hawker's was based out of BCT and I got to know some of the DayJet folks down there. I sure hate to hear this, not only for the employees but also for the business model itself. It was a bold plan and I commend them for attempting it, sadly though, their timing could not have been much worse and this is a very unforgiving industry.

Now having said that, I did check out their website and it is still business as usual however, that is not always an accurate indication.
 
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Not operating the the most charter intensive areas of the U.S. (NY, NJ, DC, IL, OH, TX, and CA) was an incredibly bad tactical blunder from day one.

Rule number one of business charter:
Go where the business IS.

I'm truly sorry for everyone who lost their jobs.
 

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Having experience in the Eclipse certainly can't hurt. I am sure there are plenty of other charter or private operators out there - and most should pay more than $50K per year.

I think North American Jet out of PWK operates a few Eclipses for charter. It's obviously a bit colder up north vs. sunny Florida but it might work for some people...

Good luck to all - it was interesting while it lasted!
 

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At least they compensated their pilots well, unlike other startups with much larger aircraft.
 

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At least they compensated their pilots well, unlike other startups with much larger aircraft.

Do you think paying jet pilots $50K per year is generous? I don't - regardless of the QOL (and the ability to live in very expensive Florida dayports - Boca ain't cheap).
 

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Another blow to the industry. I'm sad for all who lost their jobs.

However I have little sympathy for the corporate founders. The idea was impractical, pie-in-the sky stuff using an impractical airplane in an impractical market. I suspect it amounts to yet another swindling of dumb-azz investors.
 

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I sure hate to hear this, not only for the employees but also for the business model itself. It was a bold plan and I commend them for attempting it, sadly though, their timing could not have been much worse and this is a very unforgiving industry.

Actually, it wasn't a bold plan but rather a stupid plan. I'm not the least bit surprised. I hate to see people lose their jobs, but having a tool like Oz running the place what would you expect?
 

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Do you think paying jet pilots $50K per year is generous? I don't - regardless of the QOL (and the ability to live in very expensive Florida dayports - Boca ain't cheap).
I never said that the compensation was "generous".

Do you think paying jet pilots 20K a year with 50 pax in the back is ok? Obviously they set the pay bar quite a bit higher than the rest out there, regionals and fractionals. In comparison, they paid their pilots well for a plane with 2 crew and only 3 pax.
 

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Actually, it wasn't a bold plan but rather a stupid plan. I'm not the least bit surprised. I hate to see people lose their jobs, but having a tool like Oz running the place what would you expect?
It was a bold plan. The problem that I saw was that they did not advertise to the public whatsoever. And I mean zero marketing. Most folks who would utilize their services and increase their load factor knew nothing about them.

Sad.
 

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Not operating the the most charter intensive areas of the U.S. (NY, NJ, DC, IL, OH, TX, and CA) was an incredibly bad tactical blunder from day one.

Rule number one of business charter:
Go where the business IS.

I'm truly sorry for everyone who lost their jobs.

You don't think south FL is a charter intensive area? Really?
 

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Actually, it wasn't a bold plan but rather a stupid plan. I'm not the least bit surprised. I hate to see people lose their jobs, but having a tool like Oz running the place what would you expect?

It is often a thin line between bold and stupid and the outcome determines how you are judged...
 
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I thought that Day Jet ran a computer based scenario program for months and said that they're business plan was flawless?
I guess one can trick a computer into believing something is a good idea as easy as it is to trick investors.
 

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I remember the first class I ever had on computers (back when they filled entire rooms). If there is one thing that has stayed constant in the world of computers, it is the first statement the professor made: Garbage In, Garbage Out
 
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