Day rate and training

parrothead

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What is the status quo regarding contract pilots and training? Do you get paid the day rate while at recurrent training?

Thanks!
 

ultrarunner

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I take it one of your customers pays for your training? That sounds like a good trade.
 

cordova1

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I am in a similar situation. I was paid 50% if my day rate, plus hotel, food, car. Hard to say what is industry standard on this.
 

Hugh Johnson

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You are a lucky man. Most contract pilots are responsible for their own training. Congrats...
 

parrothead

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Yeah, I am not paying for training. I figured he'd be responsible for all expenses, but didn't know if I should get paid for attending the training. I would definitely say it's deserved since it's a required event and two days of my time, but maybe at a lesser rate. Thanks for all of the replies!
 

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I would just be happy they are paying for your re-current and expenses. Three days of your time is a small price to pay. They are dropping 15-25k for your training, that they really don't have to. Are you strictly flying for them, or are you flying for other folks too?
 

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Are you a contract for one specific company? I know a pilot that contracts in the NY area (multiple companies) and is responsible for his own training. Im not sure how it would be if he was with one specific company. Im guessing a 50/50 split would be fair.
 

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I bill normally for training days. My primary client pays for my training and related expenses.

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o2bflyn

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Yeah, I am not paying for training. I figured he'd be responsible for all expenses, but didn't know if I should get paid for attending the training. I would definitely say it's deserved since it's a required event and two days of my time, but maybe at a lesser rate. Thanks for all of the replies!
In my opinion, the cost of training and expenses should make you happy. I would NOT try to get ANY date rate out of the deal. In my eyes, you would be getting a bit greedy seeing that industry standard is to pay for your own training.
 

parrothead

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I'm flying for two different guys on the 200 and one on the 90. I found a training course for $2300 in Dallas. Pretty good deal, in my opinion.
 

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Whats recurrent, a matter of 2-3 days, maybe up to 4-5 days. I would never ask a person/family/company that is paying for my recurrent to pay me while at school. You'd be sitting home on your coach out of currency or paying the nut by yourself otherwise.

But if they're paying you also....damn....more power to ya man.
 

parrothead

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Well, I spoke to the boss about it and was very honest and candid about what all of you have said about this. We agreed that the time was worth something, but the training enabled me to fly other people's planes. So, we decided that $500 plus expenses was fair for both of us. Also, I did the legwork to find the school that provided that most cost efficient training and get it approved by the insurance company and he didn't have to buy a plane ticket. So, he still saved a lot of money in the end.

Thanks to all of you for your input!!
 

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I appreciate the way you did that. Too many out there selling themselves short, of course that is a tough deal in this economy, but even in good times pilots do it.
 

NCherches

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He is probably getting close to breaking the LAW by providing your training... I know of an outfit who was called out by the IRS for doing similar.
 
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