Dave Bushy at Jetblue

[Skank]

You guys are kidding right? Give me a break. I won't be judging the man on what you post on this message board.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

Can't say you were not warned

Simply put, people tend to be true to their nature. In time, you will find that Bumpseat will be true to his. Have a nice one.

 

[sleepy]

Sorry, just got back from a quick 3 day. Dave is from the NE---he was the Chief Pilot of the old BOS base (before it was closed). I have heard other interesting stories about him. This one sounds crazy but I did hear it---supposedly after 9-11 Leo got nervous and wanted to furlough all of the junior guys on each piece of equipment (not by seniority order) to save immediate money. Dave Bushy told him NO. Now I know that sounds like someone doesn't understand how seniority works---but that is the "tale" I heard. I also heard that he once handflew a 727 from ATL to MCI the whole way. (probably not that tough--but you are going pretty darn fast.....) Whether or not these are totally true, I do think he actually cared about the pilots and he obviously wants to continue making some good money (he retired with atleast $1 mil lump sum I believe plus monthly payouts)---and he was good at what he did. I think he was "forced to resign" after he had that spat with Leo---so that is probably why he didn't stay at Delta. After he resigned his post he upgraded to 767 Capt and flew that for a couple years to help his final average earnings for his retirement. I think you will like him. "WE SHALL SEE." Yes, he knows a lot about Delta and how we work, but we also know a lot about him and his techniques.

Bye Bye--General Lee

PS--I just read something on the Dalpa net that reminded me of something else. He also apparently helped the company sue 56 of our pilots during our C2K contract negotiations---for saying things about "not flying overtime during the slow contract negotiations." Hmmmmm. Enjoy.

Wow general. I hand flew DC-8's from TOL to BFI all the time (the autopilots were always broken). Does that qualify me to be a VP at DAL? Maybe I can get hired at JB if I let them know that?

 

[JayDub]

I met him at DAL new hire.

My father worked with him when he we NYC Chief Pilot.

Like ma ma always said, "when you don't have something nice to say, come sit by me"

I would not be so hard on Comair................................

G4G5, I can't think of a better endorsement of someone, than your saying you don't like them. I have yet to see a post from you that didn't end up being a love-fest of yourself (all the way back to your reasons for leaving Delta to go to American on the old server).

General,

Just out of curiosity, what's the longest distance you've hand flown a jet? PM me the answer, if you like. I am not trying to bait you; I just think the answer will show a little insight into how the Delta operation runs.

On a general note, if you refer to JetBlue 320's post, I think most of you have picked-up on a little skepticism. First, it shows JetBlue 320 is seasoned in this business. Second, it says a lot of our old VP of Ops. Captain Bushy is going to have some real big shoes to fill. Al Spain is probably our most respected and loved manager at JetBlue, amongst the pilots. Same goes for anyone who worked for him at Continental, from all I've heard. I highly doubt Al would pick anyone to replace him that isn't top notch.

Respectfully,

JayDub

 

[General Lee]

Wow, you guys who can handfly jets long distances are really cool. Yeah, that is the hiring requirement at Delta......A lot of that stuff was just "toungue and cheek". Relax my buddies....

Albie,

I am sure a lot of us have flown long distances with no autopilot---and it could have been quicker if you guys just flew Mach 2 over there and had constant refueling along the way over to Europe. That would have been fun!!! And, could you give the info to do it---I don't know who to call etc....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[G4G5]

G4G5, I can't think of a better endorsement of someone, than your saying you don't like them. I have yet to see a post from you that didn't end up being a love-fest of yourself (all the way back to your reasons for leaving Delta to go to American on the old server).


JayDub

The feeling is mutual. The only difference I don't waste other peoples time or bandwith commenting on everyone of your lame posts.

I didn't say anything negative. The quote was taken from Dolly Parton in the movie Steel Magnoila's.

I am not commenting because you should not judge him by what someone on this board writes. Judge him by his actions (see comair's post)

What I infered was Comair has a valid point and he is entitled to it. If the guy took away the jump seat on his OWN ACCORD. Then Comair brings forward a legitimate argument, that people like Eagleflip should no be so quick to judge.

Spare us your Kool Aid commentary. At least I can speak intelligently on the topic, I have met the man. Have you?

PS
When you state a bold face lie and try to attack ones creditability:
"I have yet to see a post from you that didn't end up being a love-fest of yourself"
It pays to back it up with something like proof. Anything, even the slightest bit of evidence, that could be used to support your BS. Otherwise you really are full of S and have only done damage to yourself (not a love fest just a piece of advice).

 

[rubberlayin]

What a sausage fest.

I'm dam glad the world is filled with numb-nuts like you retards. It makes it that much easier for me to nail snatch.

 

[JayDub]

G4G5,


Your comments on this thread are all the evidence any one needs. You claim you didn’t say anything negative, yet I can’t imagine how your first post could be taken as an endorsement of Dave Bushy. In your second post, you clearly back-pedal from your comments in the first without ever admitting you were wrong. That alone shows you are prideful. And if it wasn’t meant to be a slam, exactly what does your father knowing him have to do with it? Furthermore, if all you are doing is reiterating what someone else said, why bother?

It is also preposterous you can get to know someone by meeting them once. In fact, you can generalize me (re: Kool Aid commentary), and I am quite certain I have never met you.

If you must quote chick flicks, you might want to consider the use of quotation marks. Otherwise, someone might get the impression you are trying to pass off someone else’s intellectual property as an original thought of your own. I am sure you didn’t mean to give that impression, did you?

All I am saying is this; please be careful in what you post. Don’t type things on the internet you wouldn’t say to their face. I understand the sweet nectar of ‘internet anonymity’ is intoxicating. You are best in resisting its’ temptations, however.

Respectfully,

JayDub.

 

[G4G5]

Do you bother to read the posts that you comment on?

Their was NO back pedaling. I clearly state, "what I infered was" when commenting on Comair's post. My point is very clear but if need be I will state it again. IF Bushy took away the DAL jump seat of his own volition, then Comair has a valid point and you folks should not be so surprised when something like this arises. Caveat Emptor is the saying but instead you choose to attack me.

I NEVER brought up the jumpseat or anything else negative that he was known for at DAL. The Kool aid comment was directed at you because, at the first hint of anything that's not pro JB you jump down my throat(even when someone else makes it?). Re read my original post. I make light of the situtaion, with a quote. It was from a movie but in the context that it was used it could also be mine (sorry that you didn't get it) but I am also very clear that I have a foundation to base my opinion on.

Once again do you read any of the posts that you comment on?
"It is also preposterous you can get to know someone by meeting them once."

Not only did I tell you that I have met him(I never said once). I also told you my father worked for/with him in NYC. Upon meeting him at DAL indoc he knew who I was based upon my name. I do have a point of reference to work from. He is a nice guy, I never said that he wasn't but this may be a new concept for you. Not every cheif pilot is loved by all.

Please tell us, how many time you have met him?

It's too bad we have never met. I would probably have offer to buy the beer.

I have not said anthing that I would not say to the mans face or your face, for that matter. I wish him luck but to think that it's all sunshine and roses is a bit naive on your part.

Next time you come after someone personally you may want to have something, like a quote, proof, evidence. Anything. Other wise you really come off looking foolish (no"Love Fest as you suggest, just a piece of advice)

Good luck and enjoy.

 

[JayDub]

My comments had nothing to do with JetBlue. It had to do with you making vague assertion that you had nothing good to say about a person that had yet to respond in defense of himself on this forum. I would have a problem with you saying that about anyone that can't defend themself. If your comments where, in fact, based on someone else's comments why not just let them make their own point? I have yet to see where you have a dog in this fight.

It doesn’t matter either way now that he’s a “nice guy”. It sure didn’t seem from your first post you had many good things to say about him, but apparently that’s all resolved now.



Respectrfully,

JayDub

 

[Hagar17]

tee hee

What a sausage fest.

I'm dam glad the world is filled with numb-nuts like you retards. It makes it that much easier for me to nail snatch.

LMAO!!!!!

 

[G4G5]

Look, either you are too stupid to admit that you are wrong or you just like getting beat up.

I would never be so stupid as to come out and say anything negative or asualt the character of a major airlines chief pilot on a public forum web site.
Nor would I be so stupid as to attack another persons character, especially un provoked. You seem to have missed out on this part of lifes leasons.

First off. Show us all where I said something negative about Mr. Bushy. Or please shut up.

Secondly. You failed to answer my question, have you met the man or are you just spouting off with no point of reference? I can comment intelligently and objectivly. Lets face facts. Crew room hear say is all you have to draw your conclusions from but yet you continue to post your opinion.

Don't worry about my dog? My comment was directly pointed at Eagleflip(please re-read post, no where does it say JayDub, you choose to jump in). Isn't he a moderator? At no point did I attack the mans character, what I clearly said was Comair may have a point.

So much for offering to buy that beer. You just don't know when to quit.

Enjoy

 

[Eagleflip]

Hey, I'll buy that beer. Simmah down, men. It might be prudent to focus on the main topic at hand anyway.

Point taken, G4G5. Had I been in Comair's shoes during the strike and subsequent "no jumpseat" decision, I'd be ticked as well. My statement stands, however--there is another side of that decision that we don't know. I like to understand both sides of an issue before I pass judgement.

However, my real argument is that just because someone works for a company--and retires--doesn't mean that they can't move on to another company. They aren't disloyal. They aren't "wrong." It is simply a logical, ethical decision.

As for me being a moderator...Well, since when does that mean I can't take a stand or make a pointed statement? As you can see, I may not make as many posts as others, but I still enjoy the discussion.

 

[JayDub]

I met him at DAL new hire.

My father worked with him when he we NYC Chief Pilot.

Like ma ma always said, "when you don't have something nice to say, come sit by me"

I would not be so hard on Comair................................

No, you didn't mention Eagleflip, JayDub, or any other JetBlue pilot at all. You (I would presume) made this in reference to Mr. Dave Bushy, a fellow that has yet to defend himself. You are right, you never did say anything bad about him, you merely implied it. Now that you have decided he's a "nice guy", what was it that made you decide you had nothing nice to say about him in the first place?

On second thought, never mind. Someone needs to be an adult here. I am done with this thread.

JayDub

 

[G4G5]

Please take note that the quote you refer to precedes Eagleflips comments to Comair. Just like Eagleflips follows Comair's comments. So, yes I was directly responding to Eagleflip and their was no need to state it. That's how a thread works.

Get this straight, what I implied was a guy who has walked the picket line and had his jump seat privileges revoked by Mr. Bushy has the right to comment without having a Moderator (who is also a JetBlue pilot jump down his throat).

An Adult? I quote:
"I have yet to see a post from you that didn't end up being a love-fest of yourself "

You attack me (un provoked). Then you falsely accuse me of bad mouthing the chief pilot of JetBlue (you come up with zero, nada, zilch to back up your accusations). Left with nothing else, you try this, someone needs to be an adult bit. Next time, try taking the high road and apologize. Or just think twice (before you bad mouth someone and then falsely accuse them) and the whole thread could have been avoided.

 

[G4G5]

Eagleflip,

What I said was:
"I would not be so hard on Comair................................"

I apologize to those who had to read the unnecessary BS that followed.

I know of one person in particular who got stuck out on the road during that mess. Not a big deal, he got a ride with another carrier but it sure ticked him off.

What I infered was, I have met the guy and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Good or Bad, I am not going to state either way, Comair has his.

I just thought that it was a little out of place for a Moderator, who is also a JetBlue pilot to come down so hard on the guy. Maybe it was just my perception of your response. My quote says that.

Thanks for the offer, I got the first round. You are entitled to your opinion, and everyone likes a good argument. If you had not been wearing the moderator cap, I never would have said a thing.

Good luck and enjoy.

 

[V2+10]

Geez guys...it just never stops does it?...the maturity level here just contiues to decline...knock yourselves out...this has turned into nothing more than a pi$$ing match...I said this...you said that...blah, blah, blah, blah...GIVE IT A REST!...grow up...

V2

ps FLAME AWAY!!!...we all know it's going to happen!

 

[#1 Windmilling]

Ok,
I'll change the theme....word is that the former VP of Flt Ops at AA, Bob Kudwa, was offered the job before Bushy but turned it down. Too many headaches to deal with.....

-#1W

 

[Eagleflip]

Wow! That's interesting. Is it a reliable rumor? (Who am I kidding...what rumor was reliable in the first place?)

"Too many headaches..."

Headaches at AA or JetBlue? No kidding, it's a serious question.