DAL - Pilot showdown

[banger]

I think Chuckie Boy's mom ran off with an AirTran pilot, and now his dad lost his job driving the lav truck, and can't afford Chuckie's Ritalin anymore.

Good one!

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

Or better yet, How about a 717 captain who hasn't had to take a pay cut

Chuck,

From one "family" member to another, please show some compassion. We at Midwest aren't quite out of the woods yet either.

HMM

 

[Archie Bunker]

First, the judge will not rule on the 1113 motion, but will send the union and pilots off to negotiate for up to 30 more days. During that time, Delta pilots will cast a strike vote, and there will be much blustery talk of "shutting the place down" if management abrogates the contract. Meanwhile, the union and the company will produce a TA that is only marginally better than what Delta proposed in its 1113 filing. Finally in spite of having cast a majority of votes in favor of a strike, the Delta pilots will then vote in the POS TA, having taken it up the shorts like the rest of us. Unfortunately, it won't even end there. Just when you think that it couldn't get any worse, the company will come back and tell you that in spite of all the concessions you have just given, it will be necessary to furlough another 10-15% of the pilot workforce.

Best of luck to the Delta pilots. It's not going to be pretty.


Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Tristar,

Unfortunately, I believe your prediction concerning what will happen to us in the next month or so is 100% spot on.

I would be surprised to see that the pilots even had the cajones to vote to authorize a strike, let alone actually walk the line. While there is a lot of sabre rattling going on here and on the DALPA boards, there are plenty of scared pilots out there that haven't made any contingency plans, and would never even think of voting to strike. I mean, $160 an hour as a 777 Capt is still, well, $160 an hour, right? For the typical year 5 or 6 MD-88 F/O out there, the choice to walk or not is a bit easier. Many of us were furloughed for 2 1/2 to 3 years, and had to find other jobs. I came back to Delta last year thinking that the company was on the rebound. Obviously, my crystal ball was clouded, and I should have stayed put in my non flying job making more money than at Delta, being home every night, and having weekends/holidays off.

$70 something an hour, along with all the other trash in this concession package, is not enough to keep me or many of my compadres from walking. I know that I can do better. In fact, every junior guy that I talk to is actively seeking other employment (in and out of aviation). This job just isn't worth it anymore.

The next month will be an interesting one in Delta's history. Time will tell if your predictions (accurate, in my opinion) were correct or not.

Archie

 

[Pat Fabin]

I must say this has been one of the most fun-to-read Delta threads in a long time! The thread creep was fantastic...and nobody even mentioned the RJDC!

Oh, can we stop calling it 'mother Delta'? Whenever a grown man says that it just sounds gay.

Carry on,
-PF

 

[SWA/FO]

Yeah, would your momma treat you like that? How about Step Mother or Mother-in-law Delta.

 

[Spooky 1]

I think a strike is always a possibility. The company is going for far too much (more than what is necessary to keep DAL competitive) and the pilots are the easiest target for cost reductions. I love how Delta portrays the "average" pilot salary at a certain level - of course a statistic that is outdated and reflects the pilot group before the big retirement push when Captains were easily making $300K+. The average pilot wage now would be much lower but you would never see that figure in the press... Great spin job from DAL management...

Clear your PM box out and I will send you a PM regarding employment opportunities. Your box is full and will not allow for anymore PM's

 

[Lawman]

I think Chuckie Boy's mom ran off with an AirTran pilot, and now his dad lost his job driving the lav truck, and can't afford Chuckie's Ritalin anymore.

I am new to posting on this board. I think Chuck is an ex-employee who is just likes to stir up the pot. If it is who I think he is, he was terminated a while back. With that said, Ty Webb recently posted a very disgusting post about my company and my fellow pilots while claiming it was a whack at Chuck Yogourt. Why the moderators let you get away with it is beyond me. It was to say the least, a crappy thing to say about a small company who does not pose a threat to any major or LCC out there. I think you owe us all an apology.

As for you Delta people, I know you face an uphill battle and the stress of it all is felt by by not only you, but by your family and friends as well. Please be assured you are in our thoughts and prayers and are welcomed in our jumpseats anytime. You will survive.

 

[mdf]

Ty Webb recently posted a very disgusting post about my company and my fellow pilots while claiming it was a whack at Chuck Yogourt. Why the moderators let you get away with it is beyond me. It was to say the least, a crappy thing to say about a small company who does not pose a threat to any major or LCC out there. I think you owe us all an apology.

This should be entertaining. I can't wait to see his response to that!

 

[Ty Webb]

Yawn. . . . nice try, Chuckie.

 

[banned username 1]

Gentlemen, gentlemen,

I feel like the kid in the riot scene in Animal House where he's holding his arms up saying "Everybody stay calm", then gets trampled until he's the same elevation as the sidewalk.

That being said, remember 2 familiar sayings:

There but for the grace of God, go I

and

As you are, so once was I. As I am, so shall you be

No matter how perversely satisfying it may be to a select minority, making cracks about somebody's misforune and their company isn't right. A little humility and grace goes a long way- on both sides.

 

[satpak77]

Thank you

Gentlemen, gentlemen,

I feel like the kid in the riot scene in Animal House where he's holding his arms up saying "Everybody stay calm", then gets trampled until he's the same elevation as the sidewalk.

That being said, remember 2 familiar sayings:

There but for the grace of God, go I

and

As you are, so once was I. As I am, so shall you be

No matter how perversely satisfying it may be to a select minority, making cracks about somebody's misforune and their company isn't right. A little humility and grace goes a long way- on both sides.

thank you UAL

and with that, goodbye to Chuckie, hopefully forever

OWNED COLUMN

Chuck Yogourt
350DRIVER

 

[RJDC]

I hate to say it but they deserve everything they are getting and are going to get!

 

[Mugs]

I hate to say it but they deserve everything they are getting and are going to get!

Oh, you will get yours too hotshot.

 

[RJDC]

But I've got a whole lot less to lose than they do, thanks to DALPA.

 

[Cappy]

You assumed wrong. Get ready to make Air Midwest wages though. You guys are going to take it in the shorts. Tooo bad. Whaaaa.

Let's see, you have flown the 717 and DC-9. That means you are probably Airtran previously Valujet previously Eastern scab. I think that sums it up about right!

It's always interesting to see how the flamebaiters haven't the spine to be forthright, at a minimum, as to the company they work for.

I haven't always agreed with General Lee but at least he's honest with who he is and his opinions are well thought out.

Please...go somewhere else!


Mike