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After seeing repeated claims that half of NWA's list was going to retire at (pick your claim):
Year- Total/NWA/DAL
2009 - 9 9 0
2010 - 8 8 0
2011 - 15 15 0
2012 - 15 15 0
2013 - 26 24 2
2014 - 220 161 59
2015 - 253 187 66
2016 - 288 203 85
2017 - 338 214 124
2018 - 382 232 150
2019 - 465 259 206
2020 - 547 293 254
2021 - 602 285 317
2022 - 780 327 453
2023 - 830 298 532
2024 - 784 277 507
2025 - 751 257 494
2026 - 654 233 421
2027 - 513 173 340
2028 - 395 154 241
2029 - 326 138 188
Total NWA retirements - 3,762
Total DAL retirements - 4,469
So who has more retirements?
In the next ten years NWA plans to retire 1,068 pilots. Is that half the list?
In the next ten years Delta will retire 468 pilots, true that is half as many, but at year 12 Delta's retirements kick in and continue to exceed the NWA numbers.
15 years post merger:
DAL - 2248
NWA - 2530
But is that the end of the story? No.
How many pilots has Delta hired in 07 and how many are planning to come on board in 08? That number will be around 900 in 14 to 16 months of hiring. Most of these pilots went to widebodies. Which is more important - growth, or waiting for your Captain to expire?
If the NWA pilots think a widebody, a huge wage increase, and growth (part from the match, part from the bonus and part from the increase in available aircraft to bid) is career stagnation, sign me up for some.
Or not ~ I think I would prefer for the airlines to remain separate and just beat them the old fashioned way - with better service and southern hospitality - why buy what you can take?
- ___ next week
- ___ next quarter
- ___ next year
- ___ before the conclusion of the Mayan calendar
- ___ five years
- ___ ten years
Year- Total/NWA/DAL
2009 - 9 9 0
2010 - 8 8 0
2011 - 15 15 0
2012 - 15 15 0
2013 - 26 24 2
2014 - 220 161 59
2015 - 253 187 66
2016 - 288 203 85
2017 - 338 214 124
2018 - 382 232 150
2019 - 465 259 206
2020 - 547 293 254
2021 - 602 285 317
2022 - 780 327 453
2023 - 830 298 532
2024 - 784 277 507
2025 - 751 257 494
2026 - 654 233 421
2027 - 513 173 340
2028 - 395 154 241
2029 - 326 138 188
Total NWA retirements - 3,762
Total DAL retirements - 4,469
So who has more retirements?
In the next ten years NWA plans to retire 1,068 pilots. Is that half the list?
In the next ten years Delta will retire 468 pilots, true that is half as many, but at year 12 Delta's retirements kick in and continue to exceed the NWA numbers.
15 years post merger:
DAL - 2248
NWA - 2530
But is that the end of the story? No.
How many pilots has Delta hired in 07 and how many are planning to come on board in 08? That number will be around 900 in 14 to 16 months of hiring. Most of these pilots went to widebodies. Which is more important - growth, or waiting for your Captain to expire?
If the NWA pilots think a widebody, a huge wage increase, and growth (part from the match, part from the bonus and part from the increase in available aircraft to bid) is career stagnation, sign me up for some.
Or not ~ I think I would prefer for the airlines to remain separate and just beat them the old fashioned way - with better service and southern hospitality - why buy what you can take?
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