DAL DC9's?

[stlflyguy]

MKE is a city of 1.6 million people. It is a lot bigger than people realize.
Putting out code on a MEH flight does the same thing that putting our code on an ASA, Air France, KLM, or NWA flight does. It allows people to book Delta tickets on it. (Look out below)

...and a 90 minute drive from most of the north side of Chicago. For that matter, traffic depending, ORD can be a 90 minute drive from the north suburbs.

stlflyguy

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Exactly. MKE is a very big market. AAI knows this and is why they tried so hard to get in to it.
MEH also has a very loyal customer base there.

 

[General Lee]

Spare me the innacurate statements. You are the one that said your B757 could make JFK-ACC when the 757s are starting out of JFK. Some 5000 miles, and you fly them (supposely). I liked the one about the Cuzco too. You sounded liked a high school kid.

As far as JAL and NCA, they do stop in ANC, but the main thing is and the latest trend is that their equipment (B744Fs) do make Japan-west coast non-stop, and ORD too, which NW could not offer with their B742s, I see that as a disadvantage. Many JAL and NCA flights that stops in ANC actually go to Europe, where NW does not compete. That is not topic at hand though, neither this fantasy SEA stuff. Don't get all upset and offend me with cheap shots just because I won't agree with your fantansy and said it was naive.

United will never leave SFO, although if United ever comes to an end, someone else will re-establish SFO and acquire their assets, that is guaranteed to happen, it's currently a true pacific gateway.

B767s are much slower airplanes too, compared to B744/B777. Joy.

Back to the DC9 topic. Ciao.

Good try there buddy. You are right, NCA and JAL Cargo have added a couple flights nonstop from the West Coast, but there are plenty of NCA and JAL Cargo 744s that go into ANC and onto ORD, JFK, and others. I think NWA competes on those, right? You bet. That's not what you said though, and you were caught. I said DL would fly a 757 to ACC? Really? I doubt that. Show me. And Cuzco, Peru? Just watch. When it comes out, I will have scored again. Fantasy SEA stuff? Just wait.

And yes, the 767 is slower than the 744 and 777. See, you actually said something factual. Amazing. I bet you had to look that up though. Thanks for taking my advice.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[RJAA]

What? Is that why NWA flies non-stop from both KIX and NGO to DTW using the B747-400? I was just in NGO last week. Flight 72, NGO to DTW, was oversold and passengers were placed on our flight to connect to DTW out of NRT.

Doesn't really sound much like a complete failure to me.

Look for more expansion out of the west coast(esp. SEA) to Asia. One limitation to Asia expansion is aircraft. With the Delta merger and the B787, that limitation will be removed.

I wouldn't call that a success just basing off of a load factor on certain route that you flew one day during the Japanese bone season in August, which is usually a madness, although I hear that DTW-NGO is somewhat better off with a few Toyota motor corporate contracts. With the current fuel prices I would say it's barely scraping by, or on a bit on a loss side. AA, UA, and JAL have tried to make NGO/KIX work from west coast U.S and/or from their hubs failed miserably, there is no success story there. And the list goes on.

 

[General Lee]

What? Is that why NWA flies non-stop from both KIX and NGO to DTW using the B747-400? I was just in NGO last week. Flight 72, NGO to DTW, was oversold and passengers were placed on our flight to connect to DTW out of NRT.

Doesn't really sound much like a complete failure to me.

Look for more expansion out of the west coast(esp. SEA) to Asia. One limitation to Asia expansion is aircraft. With the Delta merger and the B787, that limitation will be removed.

Looks like the 767ER could kick off that expansion, and 787s could build on it. A lot of your A332s are needed elsewhere it seems. It's good to have choices.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I wouldn't call that a success just basing off of a load factor on certain route that you flew one day during the Japanese bone season in August, which is usually a madness, although I hear that DTW-NGO is somewhat better off with a few Toyota motor corporate contracts. AA, UA, and JAL have tried to make NGO/KIX work from west coast U.S and/or from their hubs failed miserably, there is no success story there. And the list goes on.

That flight to NGO from DTW will likely go to a 777 eventually, which will make it even tougher to get on, raising the fares even higher. A merged DL and NWA will add plenty of new city pairs, and we will have different sized aircraft to make sure they are "right sized" to help with sustained profitability. That is what you don't get here, one size does not fit all---something you have probably heard on your one or two dates so far in your lifetime.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[fanman]

Chinese MD-90's any day now...

Unprecedented Growth...

RJ's are self financing...

There's no money in cargo...

So be it...

A contract is a contract...

and the list goes on...

 

[~~~^~~~]

Fins,

Let's look at the potential SEA ER base .... That is good.

Bye Bye---General Lee

Absolutely agreed :beer:

 

[General Lee]

Chinese MD-90's any day now...

Unprecedented Growth...

RJ's are self financing...

There's no money in cargo...

So be it...

A contract is a contract...

and the list goes on...

You have compiled a list of statements from a lot of different leaders at Delta. We are now entering a different phase called a MERGER, that will change the dynamics a bit. It is unlikely that other airlines will have the combination we will have, especially route wise and lack of overlap. We will be tough to beat in the global airline marketplace.


Bye Bye--General Lee