Anything else you would like to ASSume flagshipper?
They left out the main part. Once I saw this memo I flipped through looking for a pay chart and didnt see one. Upgrades could push up to 4 years plus now taking away from one of the very small advantages CS had over NJ. By my guess we have about 225 active line captains versus about 140 Fos so if all upgrades are stopped until there is a balance 85 Capts woud need to leave in order for there to be upgrades again. At a guess of an attrition rate of maybe at most 9 a month it will be another 10 months before there would be any need of a new captain. So assuming an unlikely attrition of 9 a month upgrade would be over 3 years all ready but I would say 5 or 6 is a much more likely rate which makes for a 4 year upgrade assuming zero growth. Throw 5 planes a year net growth into the mix and that knock a year off upgrade at the most. I say all this because the FO pay scale is built around a quick upgrade because the pay goes from 40 to 45 to 50 then flattens out severely with only 1,250 a year after that.
Yeah that post was a lot of ASSumption. I for one am happy about the seniority system so at least I will know where I stand when it comes time to make my NJ decision hopefully. RCA, Upgrade times are always a guess. It could be a year for new hires or we could be furloughed tomorrow. I am simply throwing some numbers out there for people who are considering coming here and are being told 2 to 2.5 years for upgrade. They deserve to know the truth. Also this entire new memo was made without any input from the pilot group by way of a focus group or even input from the round table meetings. That is a little disconcerning. For a company that openly states they want no union on the property they do make some irresponsible decisions that don't help their cause.
What is the word on attrition? Heard the other day FO's are punching out of CS at a pretty good rate. Was told NJA picked up 7 of your FO's just recently.
That is pretty good percentage in one pop!
Many guys are getting on the Union train and getting pissed.
Management is getting annoyed with the situation. Guess they are regretting all that "best paid in the biz" talk. It is easy to talk big until it comes time to pay up. :laugh:
Was told your CEO said something to the effect, "Why is it I have to respond every time RTS farts." (Read IBB):crying: Classy. Guess he is feeling the heat.
1. I have not had long sits. Some have but I don't think it is every day.
2. You have to sign a note that expires after 12 months.
3. It depends. The PPO is the most expensive and it is around 400 per month for a family. The HMO is less. The PPO covers health, dental, vision and prescription drugs. It has pretty standard co-pays and deductables.
Bottom line is if you can go to NJ, then go. If not, CS is not a bad alternative. Just being truthful.
Sparse pretty much hit the nail on the head.
1. They have started a new unofficial policy where you sit appx 2 hours of airport standby before your first leg. Not horrible but really annoying when you are on min rest. They say it is in case the owners show up early but I have never found myself rushed with the normal 1 hour prior show time of course some guys take a little longer than others. But if the owners show up that early then they know there is a chance they will have to wait or a plane may not even be there yet.
2. Like Sparse said 1 year non pro-rated training contract with a 39 month equipment lock now.
3. Insurance is pretty standard but went up a fair amount for 08 and will probably continue to go up every year (until the cards are sent in). I would try NJ and the Flex and then come here if neither of those work out. Just my opinion.
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