Cost Index Program at ASA

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SkyWest Airlines is thinking of adopting the CI Program already in use at ASA. I talked with an ASA crew last in OKC and they said it was a total joke and doesn't work, they were a 200 crew.

I'm curious, is that the general feeling for the Cost Index performance and is it the same when used on the 700 as well?

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I use my iPhone in lieu of CI.

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Most captains I fly with use it as if we're on time. Not supposed to use it when running behind schedule, either, which is often the case.

I'll set it up as a reference, but if we're running behind, the CI goes out the door (usually the case). Most of our problems as far as delays lately have been the lazy ramp in Atlanta. Is lazy the right word? Lazy as f**k. That feels better.

WHY can't we fire these people? Is there any reason it takes 10 minutes for 5 rampers to "huddle" before they crawl over to the airplane at ultra-snail speed to marshall us in with wands that are not lit up?

I'm on the 200 btw.
 
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Works great, would save millions if everyone used it. As mentioned above why would anyone slow down if your running late.
 

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I use it unless we're late like everyone else says-you gotta use your head. Seems to work, and I've noticed the numbers have gone up since we started. Used to be CI of 11 or 15 and now it's usually in the 20's. Is that because fuel prices have fallen or what?
 

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I use it all of the time unless I am running behind.

A-14 comes before CI. Our contract is based on performance, and thus if an A-14 is in jeopardy, I run as fast as possible. Delta pays us based on ontime performance, not how much fuel we save them.

If you can get a D-0, then running per the CI should equate into an ontime arrival either way.

The OKC crew you spoke to was mistaken in my opinion.
 

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I agree the OKC crew has not likely seen the spreadsheet that shows savings or not.

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If you want to see it work in reverse, run as fast as possible into ATL on a clear day (no hold fuel or extra) and recieve holding instructions while they turn the airport around. :eek:
 

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It works well, saves the company money, and has the potential to make me more money with overblock (as long as we still make A-14).

I see no reason to not use it. It takes an extra minute to fill out the ACARS screen and then the rest is automated.
 

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Thanks for the feedback!
 

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It works well, saves the company money, and has the potential to make me more money with overblock (as long as we still make A-14).

I see no reason to not use it. It takes an extra minute to fill out the ACARS screen and then the rest is automated.

When did the company start paying for gas?
 

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What is this CI program? We don't have it on the Skywest side of the house.
 

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You're right. We should burn as much as possible since we don't pay for it! Delta won't notice...

I always just tell the fueler to "fill'er up!". We're usually weight restricted to around 15 peeps, but hey, that just means more free peanuts for me!

And ever since I've been bringing home thousands of insanely large bottles of spring water, the woman just refuses to bathe in, quote, "that nasty tap water".

Thanks for not noticing, Delta!

How's that for sarcasm?
 
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Cost index is computing the most efficient way to fly the airplane, not necessarily the most fuel-efficient.
 

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The ramp is what it is. You get what you pay for. D blows and always will. Sometimes their good and sometimes they bad. I absolutely love it when they saunter out from "ramper hq" to marshal us in at a less than anaerobic pace. However when we park on the "big boy ramp" we never wait. Ground power is usually hooked up lickety split. Ground air isn't because their hose is too short. Some rampers are great; what happened to the guy that wore the mirror sunglasses that actually knew how to marshall and even did it with a little style? Minimum wage equals minimum effort.
 

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Ok. Good point. Why the difference between A/B and C/D/E??? It's the same employee group right??? They are all Delta rampers! But yet they cant work the same on all concourses! It is rediculous!
 

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Cost index is computing the most efficient way to fly the airplane, not necessarily the most fuel-efficient.
Best definition I ever heard.

Watch the CI change over the next year as oil shoots back up!!
 
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