Corporate pilot position

[DHPFLYN]

I am just curious how most of you heard about your current positions? Is it word of mouth? Looking up company websites all day long?

Any help would be great

Thanks

 

[lewis flyer]

In my experience most have come from networking. Also, the fact that you have a type rating in the given equipment is usually important. With regard to internet postings, I found very low response unless you have time in the type they are looking at.

If you live in the area you wish to work and there are flight departments, cold calling to drop a resume is good. You may not get a job right away, but that is good networking. By the third time you visit they know you.

GOOD LUCK!!

 

[DHPFLYN]

Thanks Lewis

 

[ditchpilot]

networking

All of my jobs (both good and not so good ones) were from networking. One thing we all need to remember is networking is a 2-way street. I spend a good part of my week helping guys get a front seat or at least a chance to interview.

 

[dogedog]

ditto on networking

 

[jet2work]

The magic formula for success IMHO would be a Local Pilot, Type Rated, A good guy (or lady) known by someone in the department or a friend of a trusted aquaintaince.

The degree of difficulty for this manuever is a 9.0

We start deducting for not being typed (currency not an issue - we can use you as SIC until a school slot opens up). Additional deductions may occur for not being local. My last Relo cost the company about $35K. The judges may deduct for not knowing anyone within the flight department or not having an internal recommendation.

Of course, if you have a reputation as being a real nozzle, that is an automatic DQ.

My advice is to be nice to everyone you meet. You never know who your next boss might be.

 

[DHPFLYN]

All good points

Thanks

 

[sleepy]

The one I just interviewed for was word of mouth from an insider.

 

[Fly91]

I just got on with a 91 company that has only hired within for over 20 years. No walk-ins ever.

 

[HawkerF/O]

I was working for a low rent 135 operator (the CP was a little bitch with Nepolean complex who flunked out of ASA's initial and the ASST CP was the worst pilot I had ever flown with who'll be the subject and focus of an NTSB report in the not too distant future) when I applied for this job. I was not hired, but told I would be called when/if this position ever became open again; Yeah Right! Well, sure enough, when the position came open again a couple of years later, I got a call and email out of the blue asking if I was still interested, and oh, by the way, we sold the midsize jet and the G450 is less than 3 weeks from showing up, so we'll be sending you for a type right away. Went and interviewed, that went well, and now here I am, fresh out of school with a G450 (GV) type in my pocket, excellent salary, full benefits, cash bonus (the green stuff), what's a pop-up trip?, all pt 91, swap legs, airplane owner is as cool as they come, and the CP goes out of his way to make sure I have nothing to complain about. Sometimes it's word of mouth, and other times things just fall into your lap. Good luck.

 

[Capt1124]

climbto350.com and avcrew.com. I have also gotten good leads from jsfirm.com. I got a call once off aviationemploymentboard.com (which seems to be dormant now) but it didn't pan out.

 

[ILS2DH]

If you live near a FSI sim center, look into their SIC program - they need warm bodies to fill the right seat for people going through training solo. It's a great way to meet a lot of corporate pilots. They'll send you through the course for free (but they won't give you the type).

 

[svcta]

I kept in touch with a friend from way back and one day I was in the front of an RJ and this friend's dad calls me and says that he heard I was looking to make a switch. 3 days later I interviewed and later on I was offered a job. The QOL was immediately better and I was able to get the corporate experience that helped open the door to my current job. Knew the CP here for a little while, got to know more of the pilots here, gave some warbird rides whenever I came around, generally tried to cultivate all of my relationships with people that were on the inside. It paid off big time for me.

The fact that I was local helped, too. Had I not made the move for the first job I would have had a harder time IMO. My best advice, though, is about making and keeping networking relationships going. With some people every time they see you you're being interviewed. No matter how casual a lunch seems, it probably isn't. Also, be careful about what you say around the internet. It's not too hard to sleuth out who somebody is based on certain things if you've got the time and motivation to do so and let's just say that anecdotal evidence has shown that there are people that will do this.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I kept in touch with a friend from way back and one day I was in the front of an RJ and this friend's dad calls me and says that he heard I was looking to make a switch. 3 days later I interviewed and later on I was offered a job. The QOL was immediately better and I was able to get the corporate experience that helped open the door to my current job. Knew the CP here for a little while, got to know more of the pilots here, gave some warbird rides whenever I came around, generally tried to cultivate all of my relationships with people that were on the inside. It paid off big time for me.

The fact that I was local helped, too. Had I not made the move for the first job I would have had a harder time IMO. My best advice, though, is about making and keeping networking relationships going. With some people every time they see you you're being interviewed. No matter how casual a lunch seems, it probably isn't. Also, be careful about what you say around the internet. It's not too hard to sleuth out who somebody is based on certain things if you've got the time and motivation to do so and let's just say that anecdotal evidence has shown that there are people that will do this.

Some good advice here IMO...ALWAYS be networking - thats the key...in person and online. A surprising amount of contact and job information is shared via PMs on these boards.

Don't be uptight, just be yourself, you dont want to work at a place where you wont fit in anyhow.

Standing out? --

Local always helps, as its clear you understand the area and the COL. Type rated? if thats a hard core requirement I'd wonder why....inside contacts always help, of course...but that just gets you the interview. I have interviewed rec'd people who got the thumbs down pretty quick, while blind resumes have been hired..it helps to get you in the door but no way guarantees a job.

Be persistent but not annoying. Stay in touch enough to show your interest. Hiring may stop for awhile but if/when it picks up you want your name mentioned as a very interested guy.

Good Luck!

 

[DHPFLYN]

Has anyone used Climbto350? Just wondering if it's worth the money or just a bunch of bs jobs?

 

[khsgt]

Furloughed Airline guy that just got a job as a CP for a 91 flight department. Networking is the only way to go....

Whoever said the difficulity of this maneauver is a 9.0 is dead on.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I got hired off it. Friends also.

Any lead is worth it in this business my friend.

Even little old discredited, disrespected, and completely unappreciated me has managed to get a dude or two hired around here...

 

[NCherches]

Climbto350.com is alright but seems to have too many foreign pilot jobs... I prefer to use BizJetJobs.com.

Good jobs are not advertised in most cases and networking is easier for finding quality jobs/employees

 

[tathepilot]

Flight Info = 3 jobs.

 

[Fly91]

Has anyone used Climbto350? Just wondering if it's worth the money or just a bunch of bs jobs?

Its the place to go for an international job thats for sure. I think when a domestic company puts an ad on there they get 1,000 resumes in hours, not gonna have very good luck with that IMO. You also aren't going to find the very good jobs/companies to work for on any website. The Fortune 500 companies have posted jobs on their before and still do every now and then, but they will never hire anyone that way. They just do that to keep the Equal Oppurtunity Employment people off their backs. They hire within. I know a few guys at Southeast Toyota and they put ads out, but they will never and have never hired any other way but WITHIN.