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ASABound

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As of this am Corporate Airlines Mgmt. in Smyrna , TN have announced that Corporate will be be acquiring 25 ERJ - 135 aircraft from Continental Express. Doug Caldwell said that "this is to support growth opportunities in STL, with the American downsizing". It was also said that the first aircraft will be on the property by October 1st.
 
Wow!! There's one that missed the rumor mill. Are they going to be flown as American Connection? Good news for a good group of pilots. -Bean
 
Let me understand this correctly. Are they buying new aircraft from EMB and using COEX's options or is COEX going to park 25 A/C and just hand them over to you? What happened to the good old days when companies like COEX, American Eagle had no contract carriers, what a world we work in these days. So I'm assuming Chataqua is going to do less flying out of STL than they thought.
 
They can't be doing the flying for Continental. CoEx's contract states that they will be the ONLY regional jet server for Continental until 2006.
 
I've looked on 5 different airline news sites that usually have stories like these before anybody else does and I've yet to find anything. This might be a HOAX.
 
ERJpusher said:
They can't be doing the flying for Continental. CoEx's contract states that they will be the ONLY regional jet server for Continental until 2006.
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I dont think anyone said they would be operating for Continental. It said they would be aquiring them from COEx. I would like to see a press realease on this one though.

And by Oct 1st? That would mean training would need to start pretty soon for an RJ class. Interesting.....:rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:

What happened to the good old days when companies like COEX, American Eagle had no contract carriers, what a world we work in these days.
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Alot of now WO carriers got their start as contract carriers back in the old days.
 
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And I didn't say that they would be operating them for Continental.

I DID say, however, that they would not be.
 
I will also agree with King Airer that most WO carriers got their start as contract carriers. In fact, it wasn't more than 10 or 15 years ago that American Eagle was entirely composed of four different contract carriers.
 
Since the operating costs for a -135 are almost the same as a -145, wouldn't it make sense for COEX to unload some -135s? COEX isn't in the middle of any crazy expansion (like 4-5 years ago) and they are still recieving new -145XRs on property...so it really wouldn't be downsizing (would it?). Most of the routes that COEX intended to use the -135 on were dropped, and deemed "unprofitable with an RJ" by CAL mgmt, only to be restarted a couple years later with props (Skywest & Commutair). Just my $.02...but it seems to make sense.

Cheers,
Markus
 
Actually, upon further research, it was only five years (1998) ago that they all were merged. Simmons Airlines, Flagship Airlines, Executive Airlines, and Wings West Airlines all became American Eagle as we know it today.

Kingairer, no hard feelings;)
 
I just received a Pilot-to-Pilot blastmail about this rumor and it said that CAL ALPA asked the VP of Flight Ops about this rumor and he said that this rumor is false. Let the rumor mill continue...

GJ
 
Just talked to someone here in STL who says that all the flying in STL is accounted for and that the only 135's to be flown out of STL will be done by Eagle on their STL-LGA routes. They may be getting 135's, but not to be flown in STL for AA. Sorry.
 
Hey pass the pipe this way, why not take all 30 of the POS's. Oh yeah we need to keep 5 so that we can keep the pay diff. to ram it up our pilot group where the sun don't shine...silly me I forgot.
 
Well... folks I can tell you that if this rumor is true, the rest of the Corpex pilot group is unaware of it.

ASABound put the pipe down and just walk away.
 
VP of flight ops at COEX said yesterday that this deal is bogus. No Expressjet 135/145's are being sold or leased. For what it's worth.
 
I know the DO for Corporate and although lots of talk......NOTHING has been signed and probably won't. Please don't post unless you KNOW......too many people out there lookin for oppurtunities.......don't burst their bubble.

Peace
 
Jungle Jets

Man those things have been sittin there for like a year along with 20 different saab's and other assorted regional planes. Seems like someone would snatch those bad boys up though.....

;)
 
ASABound is right on top of the latest info at Corpex. I would trust this rumor to be true!

.............except that he has been in Coast Guard Training for the last few weeks!

Attention on deck...........flame baiter has come aboard!!

.................GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ!
 
I heard they were going to reinvent themselves as a low-cost carier and fly ex-United 747-400s. Where do I send my app?;) :D
 
Funny......

.....I talked to ASA bound on the phone the other night as he was waiting for the Coast Guard to get back into port -- he said something about "doing" the Coast Guard, not training?!?!


Or could it have been "training" as in choooo, choooo........
 
ASAbound is seasick!

kotex...er corpex, my friends will, never get rjs of any type or size, so you didecated, wholly-owneds and so on don't need to worry!

Why not rjs? They cost too much. I enjoyed the discussion of where Eagle came from, and will throw out two more names...Masaba and Pinnical(express one).

There are two things that seperate Corporate Airlines from the RJ operating, "former" contract carriers...
1) Capital
2) Vision

We at corpex will give up our jetstreams when they pry our cold dead fingers from around them, or we get hired somewhere else!
In that vein, congrats to Jody Olsen, BRL station manager on her
moving to Air Tran!!!

Not that corpex will never get new a/c. They would probably have AN-2's on the property right now except for the certification issues. One CA suggested we should be Jurrasic Air, flying yesterday's technology into tomorrow(or something likethat).

Well, it was I funny rumor, but there ain't enough change under the crewroom couch to fuel rjs. Ha. HAHAHA
 
I thought the change under the crew-room couch was the Corpex retirement plan?

............oh wait, scratch that, its the marriott rewards points..........
 
I've heard a lot of rumors about us unloading the 135's. Heard from mx. the other day that the difference in operational cost is about $75/hour. I wouldn't doubt CoEx trying to get rid of them, but I think it would be a hard sale.


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Yes, It Is True!!!

C’mon guys & gals, why so negative? I was also very skeptical at first but after some research I found out the rumor to be true. However, instead of 25 ERJ’s »Corporate Airlines« are only getting 6 ERJ136’s (with an option of additional 10).

Found a link with one already painted in Corpex colors: (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/636385/L).



Finally, better things ARE coming after all…

HomeY​
 
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