Corporate Airlines (AA Connection) J32 down in MO

[Smiliner]

Sh!t!!! My best friend just started IOE at CorpEx on Monday.


My thoughts and prayers are with the family & friends of everyone that is involved.

 

[AirBill]

Reporters are morons.

That's a helpful statement.

May God be with the crew, passengers and their families.

 

[JetCapt69]

http://www.airdisaster.com/news/1004/20/news.shtml

 

[8HourPilot]

Hey Belchfire, you out there?

 

[The Sizzler]

We (Trans States) do NOT fly to Kirksville. Thats a Corporate Airlines route. God be with the passengers, crew and their familes.

My bad I thought it was them, I could have sworn they did fly in there back when I worked on the ramp.

 

[Ailerongirl]

I just watched the news conference that was held at the Kirksville Airport this morning, and all I can say is that I hope the FAA and the NTSB got there as quick as they could!

Between the spokesperson from the Sheriff's Dept, and the one from the Highway Patrol, neither had a clue as to what NTSB stood for. It was first referenced as "National Transportation Safety Bureau", and then 'National Traffic Safety Bureau" They then gave up for a bit and referred to both the FAA and NTSB as "Federal People", and then it was back to 'National Traff..err Transportation Safety Bureau"

I'm sure they were both just unnerved to have a bunch of reporters in their faces when they were trying to deal with a horrible crash, but still...

God bless those that were lost last night, and I hope that the 5 missing are recovered.

 

[Justino]

This is so sad, another crash.... and in MO again. My prayers go out to the families and friends of all involved. God's speed........

 

[Mongolikecandy]

Anyone know who the crew was? If so could you drop me a PM. (don't want to put their names out in view of the public just yet) I good friend of mine has a brother in law that works there and just wanted to make sure he's alright. Continued prayers.....

Mongo

 

[BoilerUP]

I recieved two phone calls last night telling me about this accident. As a former Corpex employee, the only way I can explain my feelings was the word SHOCK.

I heard from a former coworker, who heard from another former 3Cer, who heard from a current Corpex employee who the crew was, but I will not speculate or spread rumors until it is confirmed. I will say that I recognized the name of the Captain, and he was an excellent person and pilot whom will be sorely missed.

I'm still young, and this is the first time I have heard a colleague passed away in an accident - I fear it will not be the last time. My sincerest prayers go out to every former and current employee at Corporate Airlines. I've yet to meet better people than the guys and gals that work at 3C. Once further details come out, if there is any way I can contribute or help the familes of those who have left us, those who know who I am please feel free to PM, call, or contact BM down in Jackson and tell him to get ahold of me.


"But for the grace of God go I..."

 

[jstarav8r]

Corpex J-32

I have a number of friends at Corpex. My sympathies go out to the families of the crew and the victims.

I used to ride them to STL out of OWB all the time when I was at TWA. What a great group of people.

This may not bode well for Corpex. I've heard things are not all that rosy overthere.

I hope this crew was doing what they loved right up till the end. I think most pilots are in this profession because they love to fly. Most likely this crew was working toward a better future in aviation. God Bless EM!

If somebody knows who the crew was, could you PM me. I can't get a hold of my buddy down there.

Jetstar Aviator

 

[JetCapt69]

TWE days

My bad I thought it was them, I could have sworn they did fly in there back when I worked on the ramp.

Back in the good ole TWE days, Trans States did fly J32s in and out of STL. Then, in '99 they got rid of all of them, and kept the J42s, ATRs & EMB-145s.

"I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end He will stand upon the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God."
JOB 19:25-26

 

[Frank Bama]

God Bless those and their families. Corpex is a great bunch of people, my deepest sympathies to all involved.

 

[belchfire]

Godspeed.

My condolences to all.

Belchfire, I can only imagine. I'm sorry.

Thanks my friend...in fact, all my friends. My
what an awful way to wake up, with my sister
in law calling the phone to see where I was.

I had flown with the CA back when he was a
new FO. A good stick and all around great guy.
didn't know the fo that well, had just barely met
him, but given the standard of the people that we
have I can only imagine that he was well liked.
Godspeed my friend, you will be well and truely
missed.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families
of all that have been touched by this...and my
family at corpex.

"May your paths all be downhill. May the sun always
smile on your face. May the wind always be at your
back and may you be in Heaven an hour before the
devil knows you're dead." old Irish toast...

 

[airlinepilot]

End of Corpex

Sad as it will be this is probably do Corpex in.........the lawsuits, etc will just be too costly for a small airline to overcome. Regardless of the reason for the crash. If anyone knows the names of the crew I would appreicate a private message with their names....

 

[belchfire]

I wouldn't jump the gun on that one Airlinepilot.

Lawers like Kerry and Edwards only go after deep

pockets, cause that's how they get paid...

God but you're cold!

 

[airlinepilot]

Lawyers will take it all...

Well you can count on this. There will be numberous lawyers with lawsuits filed that will cost Corpex alot of money...even with insurance....
There is also the MEGA attention the FAA and eveyone else will give them during the next year while this goes on......I guarantee you there are already lawyers trying to sign-up next-of-kin as we speak. Lawyers assume insurance will pay up but most airlines have to pay a certain amount up front....(for example I think at SWA the company has to pay the first Mil)......The legal cost alone will probably sink the Corpex ship....Everything at Corpex just got more expensive...esp insurance.

 

[FL000]

The legal cost alone will probably sink the Corpex ship....Everything at Corpex just got more expensive...esp insurance.

The legal costs will be picked up by their insurance carrier, as it is the insurance provider who contracts to accept the liability. It will be either future premiums or refusal of coverage that will hurt them the most going forward.

 

[Sig]

JW Belchfire:

This is such a messed up situation; a tug o'war for me emotionally. I've never met you, but I was extremeley relieved to see you're still with us; yet I'm trying to pay respects to all that died and the ones that have to live without them. Surreal.

Glad you're here. But dam.n it's been a hard week.

 

[philo beddoe]

I have a question ,but I think I know what the answer probably is.
Has anyone ever successfully sued the affiliated major when a codeshare regional has crashed?

I imagine the majors have gone to great lengths to insulate themselves from this, but these days it seems like the lawyers can punch through a lot of agreements and sympathetic juries let them get away with it.

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Belchfire

GO FU ck off! People died.. this isnt political. Just like the president you have to make a political issue out of tragedy. Do you want to go on we can go in another forum... but this is no place to put your idiotic, oblivious comments. Byt he way, kIng george is a lawyer too you ass.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Shut "Jet Pilot". Belchfire is right on. Corpex will probably get sued into the Stone Age and that is really unfortunate.

BTW, that's the first I've ever heard of Bush being a lawyer. From my recollection he was a BUSINESSMAN. Either way, at least Bush made the attempt to *EARN* his own money not inherit it from rich women he married.

 

[embraerjetpilot]

oh im sorry i thought osama bin laden and the saudis gave him his money. No, seriously guys if this is a subject that you absolutely cant get away from discussing.. lets take it to another forum. Have some respect.

 

[SRJ]

End of Corpex
Sad as it will be this is probably do Corpex in.........the lawsuits, etc will just be too costly for a small airline to overcome. Regardless of the reason for the crash. If anyone knows the names of the crew I would appreicate a private message with their names....

You never know. Look at Air Midwest and Colgan. Both lost 19 seat turboprops and are still operating. I hope to see Corpex around for a long time.

 

[airlinepilot]

You Never Know

You never know and it all depends on the amount of insurance that they have. I mean one of the guys that was killed was a well known Doctor and several other Medical VIPs....you can just imagine how much those families is going to ask for!!!! The other thing that insurance is not going to cover is all the extra expense of being under a microscope for the next year....The FAA will do what they do best and that is be a royal pain in the butt for every activity (training, maintenance, etc)........Great loss for eveyone.....and my heart goes out to the families and friends. I WOULD LOVE SOMEONE TO PLEASE TELL ME WHO THE CAPT WAS...please send me a private message. BTW....the only reason I mentioned this was because if the guys and gals have a chance for a job someplace else......they might want to consider the potential of Corpex going down.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Most of Corpex's business is EAS though I think. Not exactly lucrative markets.

 

[B190Captain]

I have a couple of friends at Corpex. I jumpseat on them quite a bit to see my kids in BRL.

God be with the passengers and crew who perished in this tragedy.

Have the names of the crew already been released?

 

[mmmdonut]

Anyone care to say "godspeed" one more time?

 

[probablecause]

I have always said my coworkers at Corpex were like my seconded family.
This morning I awoke to hear that I have lost friends that I consider family.
BoilerUp is correct.
You cannot and will not find a better group of people than the people that work at 3C.
My prayers are with every single one of you. On behalf us former 3C'ers at ASA you will be in our thoughts.



Gary



JETPIGS WILL ALWAYS BE UNITED

 

[8HourPilot]

Belch,

Funny how things work. Never met you, probably never going to, but your name kept coming up in my head today. It's been a tragic day in your life, but it's good to see your still around. I am hoping that you can be a way for the rest of us to find out if the rest of us can do anything for the crew's fam's.

I'll be happy to say Godspeed again,

8HP

 

[Smacktard]

Anyone care to say "godspeed" one more time?

I'll second that...