Contract in waiting EXPRESSJET

[wms]

Just don't Nancy Pelosi it and wait until after the vote to see what's in it.

 

[Plainsman]

Just don't Nancy Pelosi it and wait until after the vote to see what's in it.

Was that wrong?

 

[JumpersAway]

There is one thing you can bank on. As soon as the ink is dry (if it passes and is signed by ALPA), the scheduling warden is going to sit down with a marker and change all of the "may", "at company discression", and "can" loopholes to "will", "must" and "going to". It will then to circulated to the scheduling mouth breathers to exploit, in an effort to ruin and nullify any QOL gains in the contract.

 

[Nevets]

There is one thing you can bank on. As soon as the ink is dry (if it passes and is signed by ALPA), the scheduling warden is going to sit down with a marker and change all of the "may", "at company discression", and "can" loopholes to "will", "must" and "going to". It will then to circulated to the scheduling mouth breathers to exploit, in an effort to ruin and nullify any QOL gains in the contract.

Quality of life gains? Haha that was funny.

 

[JumpersAway]

Quality of life gains? Haha that was funny.

I thought it was hilarious myself, which is why I laughed myself right out the door to a better airline with a brighter future.

 

[jetstream]

Given that the company wants this signed before we get to see the effects of the new work and rest rules and how the pilot shortage is going to affect things, I think it would be unwise to pass anything more than a two year agreement.

 

[dojetdriver]

I thought it was hilarious myself, which is why I laughed myself right out the door to a better airline with a brighter future.

Where'd you go?

Congrats on getting out.

 

[Nevets]

I thought it was hilarious myself, which is why I laughed myself right out the door to a better airline with a brighter future.

Take me with you!

 

[JustaNumber]

Given that the company wants this signed before we get to see the effects of the new work and rest rules and how the pilot shortage is going to affect things, I think it would be unwise to pass anything more than a two year agreement.

Two year agreement, plus three to five more to negotiate the next contract, equals five to seven years. That's a lot of five-day trips!!!

Why wouldn't both sides want to wait to see how the new rules work out? It doesn't smell right to me. Even if it looks like a good contract :laugh:, there's no way I'm voting yes prior to next spring--it's just common sense.

 

[IBNAV8R]

There is little to gain and a lot to lose by committing oneself to several years of concessions (or even status quo) when the game is about to be changed - big time.