Concerned Mom Won't Fly with Arabs (who train Marines)

[PCL_128]

But who are you to say whether someone should or shouldn't speak their own language, if they want to?

This is America. If you want to live and be successful in America, then speak English. The reason that this country has been so successful and has become the superpower that it is is because of the immigrants who came to this country and conformed to American societal norms. America is supposed to be a "melting pot." Instead, too many immigrants today want to just bring a little piece of their own country here and demand that everyone else adapt to them. Sorry, not how it's supposed to work.

 

[Flyer1015]

This is America. If you want to live and be successful in America, then speak English. The reason that this country has been so successful and has become the superpower that it is is because of the immigrants who came to this country and conformed to American societal norms. America is supposed to be a "melting pot." Instead, too many immigrants today want to just bring a little piece of their own country here and demand that everyone else adapt to them. Sorry, not how it's supposed to work.

Well of course, that I can agree with.

But I was thinking more along the lines of person A from some country, speaking to person B from that same country... can they not speak in their own language?

I don't see the problem if two people, of the same background, converse in their own language.

Now if you are at work, or something critical thing like that, then converse in English like everyone else.

 

[PCL_128]

But I was thinking more along the lines of person A from some country, speaking to person B from that same country... can they not speak in their own language?

In private, they can do whatever they want. As far as what is acceptable to society, I feel that when you're in public, you should be speaking the language that is generally understood to be the language of the United States: English.

 

[Flyer1015]

In private, they can do whatever they want. As far as what is acceptable to society, I feel that when you're in public, you should be speaking the language that is generally understood to be the language of the United States: English.

I'm the complete opposite. On a public bus/train, nothing is worse than a 15 yr old girl on a cellphone: "And, like, yah so he totally likes me. And like, I told him, um, yeah! Like, I'm not into him, ya know? And like, I dont know what I should do, but like, know what I mean? Then, like, I was just like, whateverrrr!"

Man is that annoying!

The way I see it, go ahead and speak another language... Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, anything! So as long as I dont understand/comprehend the full blown personal conversation in public, the happier I'll be.

 

[brainhurts]

I am no apologist. I simply call things as I see them. Long rambling? Yeah, I bring up valid points, and address every single right-wing hatred/fear based idealogy. Half truth? You still haven't looked up the history of US actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan for the last 2-3 decades, have you? "Waste of time".... only cause you disagree with it and don't have anything valid to fight back with.



First of all, it's Wikipedia. Second, that link already confirms what I've already said: the hadiths are oral sayings that have been recorded over time, they are not the direct word of God.



Hadiths were sayings that were passed down orally for more than one hundred years before even being written down. And yes, that was mentioned in that Wikipedia article. It was only hundred years (and even longer) later, that they were finally put down on paper. As history has shown, things said today will not be the same thing that will be put in writing hundred years from now. Some things bound to change over time, and oral sayings are changed by the people over time as they see fit. So, scholars can point out that the Koran is the word of Islam, and not the hadiths. Know your history before blasting on things you have no idea about.



There you go again... comparing mainline Christianity to radical Islam extremist theology. Why don't you compare mainline Christianity with mainline Islam? You should research more before blasting religions. I certainly have researched into religions I found fascinating. Did you know Islam is one of the only religions that require a person to give up a certain percentage of their salary for charity? That's one of the five pillars of Islam. I can't recall any other religion physically stating that a part of your salary must go to charity to benefit mankind. Like I said, research other religions, and you'll be more educated, if anything. That 'love thy neighbor' idealogy exists in mainline Islam, also. Obviously, that's not the case for radical extremist Islam.

Do you like to listen to yourself speak? It would seem you are writing for your own sake. You have not acknowledged that our actions in the ME were a result of the cold war. You indicate we simple acted out of mid air. You are being misleading and a liar. You are an apologist. You are on this site making the case for Islamic extremeists. The point of the Hadith is that the Muslims themselves can't make out what the Koran means. So they wipped together the Hadith to help interpret the Koran, so now they make laws and jihad and fatwah's based on flawed, made up documents, and you want to end your crazy post telling me about their required charity? Give me a f'ing break! I would love to see the charity that comes from Somalia or Sudan!!! You are a clown, and I love how you tell others to educate themselves more. Please go back to whatever country you came from. Why did your prophet want to sleep with a 7 year old girl? Why can't your prophet stand the scrutiny of a cartoon? You may as well come out and admit you are a Muslim who would like nothing better than to have the United States destroyed so that the beacon of Democracy can not interfere with your Shira Law.

 

[Flyer1015]

Do you like to listen to yourself speak? It would seem you are writing for your own sake. You have not acknowledged that our actions in the ME were a result of the cold war.

Yeah, that, and OIL.

You indicate we simple acted out of mid air. You are being misleading and a liar. You are an apologist. You are on this site making the case for Islamic extremeists. The point of the Hadith is that the Muslims themselves can't make out what the Koran means. So they wipped together the Hadith to help interpret the Koran, so now they make laws and jihad and fatwah's based on flawed, made up documents

Incorrect on several counts. The only ones talking fatwas and jihad statements that I've seen so far are you and al-Qaeda terrorists/extremists.

and you want to end your crazy post telling me about their required charity? Give me a f'ing break!

Don't confuse the two. You just went from extremism/radical Islam, into mainstream Islam.

I would love to see the charity that comes from Somalia or Sudan!!!

From third world poverty countries? Not much. They barely have enough to survive on their own. That charity thing is for those who can afford to.

You are a clown, and I love how you tell others to educate themselves more. Why did your prophet want to sleep with a 7 year old girl? Why can't your prophet stand the scrutiny of a cartoon? You may as well come out and admit you are a Muslim who would like nothing better than to have the United States destroyed so that the beacon of Democracy can not interfere with your Shira Law.

Wrong assumptions, you just made. Waaaaay wrong assumptions.

Please go back to whatever country you came from.

Ok, but only if you do the same. After all, we were all immigrants to this country at some point.

 

[ShamH85]

Why can't your prophet stand the scrutiny of a cartoon? You may as well come out and admit you are a Muslim who would like nothing better than to have the United States destroyed so that the beacon of Democracy can not interfere with your Shira Law.

Your a skig skag bro... Your way to paranoid...Do not bring your prejudice towards Islam here and expect us to agree to a ignorant blanket statement Over 10million muslims that were born in America that love and serve their country like any other citizen of this great country... This country is great because our freedoms which I'm pretty sure freedom of religion is still there... We planted a seed in the Middle East and you can't under estimate the youth movements in some modernized parts of the region who will take a successful lead into the western world and adapt towards higher education and improving their poor one source economies. Shira Law would never anywhere and give the Middle East another 10years and it will be more westernized and democracies will flourish and economies will be the new religion (a lil rosy future)...Then in 2020 you can beware of the rising sun brain hurts.

 

[BigMeat]

Please go back to whatever country you came from.

Now your just being a fukin @ss. Unless you are American Indian keep your mouth shut. I run into your types all the time that spout crap about people from other places, but when you are around them you say nothing. You are a coward. If I was from somewhere else and you said that to me I garuntee you would be picking up the remainder of your teeth. No wonder Elis Island is begging for donations to keep it standing. You all forgot where you came from.

 

[brainhurts]

Now your just being a fukin @ss. Unless you are American Indian keep your mouth shut. I run into your types all the time that spout crap about people from other places, but when you are around them you say nothing. You are a coward. If I was from somewhere else and you said that to me I garuntee you would be picking up the remainder of your teeth. No wonder Elis Island is begging for donations to keep it standing. You all forgot where you came from.

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[brainhurts]

Now your just being a fukin @ss. Unless you are American Indian keep your mouth shut. I run into your types all the time that spout crap about people from other places, but when you are around them you say nothing. You are a coward. If I was from somewhere else and you said that to me I garuntee you would be picking up the remainder of your teeth. No wonder Elis Island is begging for donations to keep it standing. You all forgot where you came from.

I doubt I would be picking up my teeth if you attacked me. You would be very likley be quietly moaning on the floor gasping for breath, more than likely a result of a strike to the solar plexus. In public I politely keep my opinions quiet. On a public forum which is where we come for an exchange of ideas, I give you my thoughts. You can say words like "coward" very easily on an anonymous forum, however, however my actions in life and my accomplishments stand for themselves. How about you sonny?

 

[brainhurts]

Your a skig skag bro... Your way to paranoid...Do not bring your prejudice towards Islam here and expect us to agree to a ignorant blanket statement Over 10million muslims that were born in America that love and serve their country like any other citizen of this great country... This country is great because our freedoms which I'm pretty sure freedom of religion is still there... We planted a seed in the Middle East and you can't under estimate the youth movements in some modernized parts of the region who will take a successful lead into the western world and adapt towards higher education and improving their poor one source economies. Shira Law would never anywhere and give the Middle East another 10years and it will be more westernized and democracies will flourish and economies will be the new religion (a lil rosy future)...Then in 2020 you can beware of the rising sun brain hurts.

I can only hope. You still have a problem (assuming you are Muslim) with the rest of Islam deciphering the Koran, the Hadith, and Mohamaad's example of living. That is our problem, because the Muhadjeen believes that Islam must conquer the world. That is what they believe and are willing to Martyr themselves for. Who knows, maybe American Muslims will step up and lead the rest of Islam in a new direction. I hope so but I sure don"t see it happening.

1.skig-skag5 up, 2 downA bar skag without a bar.
A hideous, nocturnal bar-dwelling groupie/parasite that is at least 2 decades older than its target audience: drunken, desperate young men and middle aged men willing to engage in conversation with any thing they can fvck without it being considered gay.
drunkenpimpguy1: G-dizzles! Let's go blitzen wit da flip-flops and skig-skags!




Now that I know what a skig skag is, I am pretty sure it does not apply. Are you sure you were using the words properly?

Rising Sun? Are you involved in this cult?:
http://udayms.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/us-on-saibaba/

Good Luck with that.

 

[brainhurts]

Yeah, that, and OIL.

No, another "Takeover the world group" called communists

Incorrect on several counts. The only ones talking fatwas and jihad statements that I've seen so far are you and al-Qaeda terrorists/extremists.
Not just Al Quieda--and you know it.


Don't confuse the two. You just went from extremism/radical Islam, into mainstream Islam.
They are one and the same.

From third world poverty countries? Not much. They barely have enough to survive on their own. That charity thing is for those who can afford to.
Ah, another rock solid loop hole in Islam! Who would ever have thought that?


Wrong assumptions, you just made. Waaaaay wrong assumptions.
Ok, but only if you do the same. After all, we were all immigrants to this country at some point.

No, I'll stay here and make sure you toe the line thank you.

 

[BigMeat]

I doubt I would be picking up my teeth if you attacked me. You would be very likley be quietly moaning on the floor gasping for breath, more than likely a result of a strike to the solar plexus. In public I politely keep my opinions quiet. On a public forum which is where we come for an exchange of ideas, I give you my thoughts. You can say words like "coward" very easily on an anonymous forum, however, however my actions in life and my accomplishments stand for themselves. How about you sonny?

Solar Plexus? Maybe you should be worrying more about solar power before you get yourself into trouble. Thats whats cowardly, you admit to keeping it to yourself but yet lash out on an Internet forum. Next time you see someone from somewhere else you need to come out of your shell and tell them how you feel. I as an American think that your extreme right wing attitude and extreme fear of world is a threat to my freedoms and rights. Maybe you need to be the one to go (wherever you came from).

 

[Flyer1015]

That is our problem, because the Muhadjeen believes that Islam must conquer the world. That is what they believe and are willing to Martyr themselves for.

But! But! They were 'friends' back in the 80s!!!!! We supplied weapons, cash, and knowledge to use those weapons to the Afghani Muhadajeen so they could beat the Russians! What happened to the "Islam must concur the world" threat back then?

Double Standard.

No, another "Takeover the world group" called communists

Um, no. Like I said, OIL.

Not just Al Quieda--and you know it.

Yes, al-Qaeda, and YOU.

Don't confuse the two. You just went from extremism/radical Islam, into mainstream Islam.
They are one and the same.

Ah, finally. The truth emerges: you DO lump all 1.5 billion Muslims as the same. That's all I needed to hear to grasp the true paranoia state you're in.

Ah, another rock solid loop hole in Islam! Who would ever have thought that?

According to my research into the subject, it's not another loophole, it's actually written quite clearly. Not to mention, it's common sense. If a person has a job that pays money, then they are expected to give to charity. If they dont even have a job (like many in Somalia), then they are not expected to.

No, I'll stay here and make sure you toe the line thank you.

My apologies, I didn't realize you were Native Indian. And if you aren't, then you/your family (at some point) came to this country just like everyone else did, and for the same reasons.

 

[brainhurts]

Solar Plexus? Maybe you should be worrying more about solar power before you get yourself into trouble. Thats whats cowardly, you admit to keeping it to yourself but yet lash out on an Internet forum. Next time you see someone from somewhere else you need to come out of your shell and tell them how you feel. I as an American think that your extreme right wing attitude and extreme fear of world is a threat to my freedoms and rights. Maybe you need to be the one to go (wherever you came from).

Yes Big Meat,
solar plexus, dense cluster of nerve cells and supporting tissue, located behind the stomach in the region of the celiac artery just below the diaphragm. It is also known as the celiac plexus. Rich in ganglia and interconnected neurons, the solar plexus is the largest autonomic nerve center in the abdominal cavity (see nervous system). Through branches it controls many vital functions such as adrenal secretion and intestinal contraction. Popularly, the term “solar plexus” may refer to the pit of the stomach. A blow to that area, if it penetrates to the true solar plexus, not only causes great pain but may also temporarily halt visceral functioning.

So it is cowardly to be polite in society by not regailing people with my opinion? Is that what you do? A FORUM is a place where people come for debate. That is what keeps it civilized. And what have you done in your life, young man, that makes you an expert on cowardace? Have you served your country in combat? Were you a cop in a rough town? A fireman during 9-11? I did not think so. So I'll file your opinion on cowardice where it belongs. As for my right wing attitude, get used to it. My fear of the world? Right. How many countries have you been in? I thought so.