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Explosive, do you really think the future is any different for any Delta Connection carrier under Delta's umbrella? Take a hint from Comair. The 50 seaters are headed for the chopping block and the next 5 years will see a drastic decrease in 50 seat RJs. And what will we get? Absolutely nothing from Delta! We'll be standing their holding our tails wondering wtf just happened? Meanwhile, if Eagle gets screwed and starts parking airplanes, 50% of ALL future newhire classes at AA will consist of Eagle pilots, everyone, from top down. No interview, no medical.

So what do we Connection pilots get once Delta starts to eliminate unprofitabe RJ flying?

Nada, mi amigo!

What do you think you deserve from delta if they park all the 50 seaters? When you interviewed and hired by your DCI carrier what did they promise you? Delta can and will do whatever they think is best for Delta. YOu do realize that. I have no say or dog in the fight.
 
What do you think you deserve from delta if they park all the 50 seaters? When you interviewed and hired by your DCI carrier what did they promise you? Delta can and will do whatever they think is best for Delta. YOu do realize that. I have no say or dog in the fight.

Yeah, actually you are right. Why hire regional jet pilots with 4000-10,000+ hrs with 0-5000+ hrs turbine PIC time, when you can create your own ab-initio programs. I guess those 737 guys at Delta bailing for Southwest a few years ago really irked Delta management.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/wats-2011-delta-ponders-pilot-sources-355820/


Delta Air Lines is considering a "blue sky" theory for how to meet future pilot demands. Called "CAPT," for Civil Airline Pilot Training programme, the carrier stresses the idea is conceptual in nature and that it is not committed to the implementation, nor is it engaged in discussions with potential sponsors.
Speaking at the World Aviation Training conference in Orlando, Florida on 19 April, Arnie Kraby, Delta's manager of pilot selection, said a dramatic pilot shortage is a "gathering storm" that industry must address. Delta alone in the next 15 years will lose 7,600 pilots who will reach age-65 and retire, says Kraby.
CAPT would mainly look to high-tier college aviation programmes as means of cultivating pilots. "Statistical data indicates that a quality college education from a top-tier university or college provides us with a much better pilot in terms of fewer training failures, overall performance and reliability," notes Kraby.
The programme would include advanced jet aircraft simulation training and would be on par with military training, which produces skilled pilots qualified to fly high-performance aircraft in a shorter period compared with the civil sector, says Kraby. He is a former US Air Force pilot who flew Delta aircraft for 38 years,
"First we need to educate, mentor and train students," says Kraby. The CAPT programme would invite stakeholders across industry to come onboard as sponsors and jointly work out solutions. One of the first goals would be to build an outreach programme focused on middle- and high schools in an effort to stir up enthusiasm for the pilot profession.
CAPT candidates would be carefully screened to choose only those who have skills necessary to become a pilot. The candidate would have to maintain a 2.75 GPA, and 3.0 GPA for aviation courses. Upon earning a degree, the candidate would be required stay on as CAPT member and accrue 1,000 hours as a flight instructor at the university, thus providing a stable workforce for the school and to acquire FAA-required flight hours.
Graduates of the programme would be guaranteed an interview at a sponsoring regional airline. Then, after meeting regional airline requirements and logging required number of hours for a mainline slot (Delta requires 1,200 hours), CAPT would offer an interview at a major airline sponsor-- "another light at the end of the tunnel", says Kraby.
With aviation training costs running $80,000-$100,000, Kraby stresses: "We've [industry] got to provide financial assistance for students if we are to get the [pilot] numbers." The programme might require that student loans be guaranteed by the sponsoring organisation. Another solution might be to have loans reduced by 5% per year up to a maximum of 50% for each year the candidate works for a sponsoring airline.
 
With the above having been said, wouldn't it be far cheaper for Delta to hire current Delta Connection pilots?

Delta alone in the next 15 years will lose 7,600 pilots who will reach age-65 and retire, says Kraby.
Delta Connection carriers themselves have almost 7000 pilots. Pinnacle about 1400, Mesaba around 1000, Comair 1000 (and dwindling), Compass 420, ASA 1750, Shuttle America + Chautauqua a good amount, Skywest a good amount. Guarantee all Delta Connection pilots an interview at Delta would solve the same problem. That proposed ab-initio program still has a pilot interview with Delta, but it's guaranteed. Why not just cut out the BS and guarantee a Connection pilot an interview? Or any regional airline pilot an interview? There is NO pilot shortage but what THEY (Delta) make of it!
 
With the above having been said, wouldn't it be far cheaper for Delta to hire current Delta Connection pilots?


Delta Connection carriers themselves have almost 7000 pilots. Pinnacle about 1400, Mesaba around 1000, Comair 1000 (and dwindling), Compass 420, ASA 1750, Shuttle America + Chautauqua a good amount, Skywest a good amount. Guarantee all Delta Connection pilots an interview at Delta would solve the same problem. That proposed ab-initio program still has a pilot interview with Delta, but it's guaranteed. Why not just cut out the BS and guarantee a Connection pilot an interview? Or any regional airline pilot an interview? There is NO pilot shortage but what THEY (Delta) make of it!

I thought you were looking to go to Qatar? I am sure some DCI pilots will eventually be hired by Delta, but they may want some quality control. It's up to them, and you can apply to Qatari anytime you want.


Godspeed!


OYS
 
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I thought you were looking to go to Qatar? I am sure some DCI pilots will eventually be hired by Delta, but they may want some quality control. It's up to them, and you can apply to Qatari anytime you want.


Godspeed!


OYS
Thanks General Lee, I'll probably apply to check it out. Though EK is higher on my list. I'm exploring a few options here, too. Nothing is off the table. Have a good day, General.
 

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