Compass Uniforms

[koepp]

You guys top out at 116.00 an hr on the 175. That my friends is quite better than what they get. It is actually more than we get on the CRJ-900 here at DAL. Now the 195 rate is about 136.00 an hr here at DAL at the end of this contract.
FWIW, I would love for you to get higher rates. It might price you out of that flying though.

They don't have an E-175 payscale; it's by number of seats. "E-jets" 78 seats or less are paid at the E-170 rate on APC. 79 - 99 seat jets are paid at the E-175 rate.

 

[relief tube]

It would be good for Compass to merge. Then the 175s would have a higher payscale which would give us at RAH leverage during our negotiations which are going on currently. Not to mention, putting a mainline aircraft back where it belongs. Good luck Compass, unfortunately I think you'll need it.

Yeah.....but then those at RAH would have much less of a chance of getting on at DL years from now when they hire again. Not everyone at RAH is a lifer.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Fact is that you guys make about 116 per hr for the top end. That is probably the best paying regional job in the industry. 88 CA makes about 140 an hr.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Fact is that you guys make about 116 per hr for the top end. That is probably the best paying regional job in the industry. 88 CA makes about 140 an hr.

They have a very junior pilot group. There's only about 20 pilots that have been there more than 10 years. We'll see if the top end of their pay scale is still that high in a few years. Also, their first officers top out at $37/hour.

 

[Freeze]

Fact is that you guys make about 116 per hr for the top end. That is probably the best paying regional job in the industry. 88 CA makes about 140 an hr.

It is a phantom rate. No Compass pilot will ever be anywhere near that top rate--ever.

 

[Smarta$$]

most of the negative stuff is from crj drivers, so whats that tell you?

What is your point? Please explain your hate for CRJ drivers.

 

[Superpilot92]

What is your point? Please explain your hate for CRJ drivers.

I Dont "hate" anyone , dramaqueen. my point is that most of the people "hating" on compass and the potential of combining with mainline are CRJ guys. Meaning other regional guys that feel that they are being left out. Look at the peoples profiles that are badmouthing this and see if i'm wrong.

You yourself have biatched and moaned about compass for months. Cya mrs. dramaqueen

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I Dont "hate" anyone , dramaqueen. my point is that most of the people "hating" on compass and the potential of combining with mainline are CRJ guys. Meaning other regional guys that feel that they are being left out. Look at the peoples profiles that are badmouthing this and see if i'm wrong.

You yourself have biatched and moaned about compass for months. Cya mrs. dramaqueen

Don't bother, man. It's like being a high school teacher trying to tell two teenaged girls not to fight over the guy who just pulled into the student parking lot in a brand new Mustang. That is the mentality you're attempting to reason with. Ain't worth your time.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I was not talking about the CPS rate, I am taking about the RAH rate.

CPS will ideally never get past year three in longevity. One we start to flow, it will be the easiest way to DAL.

 

[Smarta$$]

I Dont "hate" anyone , dramaqueen. my point is that most of the people "hating" on compass and the potential of combining with mainline are CRJ guys. Meaning other regional guys that feel that they are being left out. Look at the peoples profiles that are badmouthing this and see if i'm wrong.

You yourself have biatched and moaned about compass for months. Cya mrs. dramaqueen

You really are a toolbox. It is not that we feel like we would be left out, it is in fact, that you would be leaving us out because you like their airplane better. It is the same tired old "only certain airplanes are worthy" syndrom.

Those from the outside see it. You will deny it. But it is undeniable. We have seen what selective worthiness has done to the industry. You will say that you are taking it back. But the truth is you are cherry picking the aircraft that you like better. But now you will proceed to justify it by telling me that is the only thing attainable right now and how the E-jets have the same MEC.

Well how convienient that Compass doesn't fly SF340's and share an MEC. We wouldn't here boo from you if that was the case.

You say you want all jets back? Prove it to me.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Prove it to us. I mean that. Go to ALPA national and tell them as a collective group to drop the settlement of Ford-Cooksey. You get rid of that, you would have a real chance of negotiating with us to get on the list.
With that settlement there, it is not impossible, but there are a lot of road blocks to jump. There are a few pilots that wanted this settlement and will fight tooth and nail to make sure that it effects mainline. Get rid of it, and you have a better chance.
Why?
Well CPS and the E-series jets are not flown by another ALPA carrier under the DCI banner. RAH is Teamsters. That means that we can get around all of those issues and make some real progress to taking back scope. It is a great first win. The second battle is other ALPA DCI carriers. To do that will take many years and many committes one being the committee that was created from the Ford-Cooksey settlement. That is where it will probably sit and more than likely die.
Does that make sense now, from a political stand point?

 

[flyboyike]

Prove it to us. I mean that. Go to ALPA national and tell them as a collective group to drop the settlement of Ford-Cooksey. You get rid of that, you would have a real chance of negotiating with us to get on the list.

Personally, I'd love to believe Ford-Cooksey is what's stopping it, but I just don't think that's the case. ALPA had no foresight before Ford-Cooksey and still has none.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Personally, I'd love to believe Ford-Cooksey is what's stopping it, but I just don't think that's the case. ALPA had no foresight before Ford-Cooksey and still has none.

In that case, you don't understand the politics of Ford-Cooksey.


Compass with it already being in-house on our MEC and so closely tied is going to be a hard uphill battle to try to bring back to mainline.

The rest of the DCIs would be much much moreso of a battle. FWIW all the guys that I've talked to that are for taking the flying back would prefer to bring all branded flying back. I'm in that same boat.

 

[Superpilot92]

i admit it!! I'm a top notch toolbox. It is not that we feel like we would be left out, it is in fact, that you would be leaving us out because you like their airplane better. It is the same tired old "only certain airplanes are worthy" syndrom.

Those from the outside see it. You will deny it. But it is undeniable. We have seen what selective worthiness has done to the industry. You will say that you are taking it back. But the truth is you are cherry picking the aircraft that you like better. But now you will proceed to justify it by telling me that is the only thing attainable right now and how the E-jets have the same MEC.

Well how convienient that Compass doesn't fly SF340's and share an MEC. We wouldn't here boo from you if that was the case.

You say you want all jets back? Prove it to me.

To the above in red, you're pretty tough on yourself arent you?

As for the rest of your ego post, you're a moron. I have nothing against "RJ's", I am not "selective" of aircraft either, In fact I would love to be back in the left seat of an "RJ", as long as its paid at Mainline rates.

You want it handed to you on a silver platter, nothing comes free. instead of flaming those of us on here trying to make changes, why dont you start putting effort into being part of the solution.

 

[flyboyike]

In that case, you don't understand the politics of Ford-Cooksey.


Compass with it already being in-house on our MEC and so closely tied is going to be a hard uphill battle to try to bring back to mainline.

The rest of the DCIs would be much much moreso of a battle. FWIW all the guys that I've talked to that are for taking the flying back would prefer to bring all branded flying back. I'm in that same boat.

I agree with what you're saying, I just think it'd be a battle with or without Ford-Cooksey. It seems to me the mainliners would have found some other excuse not to be one with the "RJ boys".