Commute Air Engine Failures

[Beech_boy]

I'll explain to you how it is

After an unscheduled feather the engine, which is producing no thrust at the point, has to be shut down. That is how its an engine failure.

 

[propsarebest]

Actually its more of a prop failure. The engine is still running, producing gas correct??

 

[Beech_boy]

Details

Is it really necessary to quibble over such details? The prop feathered just after take off giving the crew, in effect, a V1 cut to deal with. Technically the engine didn't fail but in effect, it did.

 

[brokeflyer]

CA 1900. Good post and as a 7 year Commutairman I agree. While Jim , Tony, and John could be sneaky with the money, they would spend it on safety. As I recall we were the first to have TCAS in every airplane in the USAir system. As I see that you are at NJA as is brokeflyer please do me a favor and when you meet him on the ramp educate him some. (that is an edit from my original idea) There is nothing wrong with small regional airlines flying to places that can not support jets. There are many communities that had better airservice in the 70's to the early 90's when everyone flew Twin Otters, Beech 99's and Metros and a big airplane was a Shorts 330. The problem comes when large "regional" airlines start flying jets on what should be mainline routes. I am proud of my time as a "commuter" pilot. Would I give up my pay and jet to go back. No, but I had a great time and I will never be as good a pilot as I was flying in the North Country on VOR's and NDB's without an auto pilot. To brokeflyer, The system may be broke also, but ther are far more good men and women out there busting their hump and trying to be safe every day than the type that you refer to. Everyone of us started with zero in the log book. Give them the respect that they deserve until they prove otherwise.

Jet

I am educated enough thanks. What I am refering to is the industry as a whole really needs a lot of work. Not just commutair but them and all the rest of them that do shabby mx and crappy work conditions. Eventually anough people will die because of crappy training and $hitty planes that they will realize that they passed the point of "acceptable losses".

 

[CEO silly sap]

Actually its more of a prop failure. The engine is still running, producing gas correct??

and a stall is caused by lack of airspeed. Another ATP wizard flying passengers.....

 

[propsarebest]

I'm a dispatcher dip********************.

 

[onionluvr]

I am educated enough thanks. What I am refering to is the industry as a whole really needs a lot of work. Not just commutair but them and all the rest of them that do shabby mx and crappy work conditions. Eventually anough people will die because of crappy training and $hitty planes that they will realize that they passed the point of "acceptable losses".

You paint with a pretty wide brush. Do you, or have you worked at "....commutair and all the rest of them..."?

 

[vectorvictor]

How is an uncommanded feather an "engine failure"?

Actually in the Dash, it's probably worse than if the engine just shuts down. It puts a lot of torque on the gear boxes and such and requires immediate attention. The engine failure (provided it feathered itself) you just drive up to 1,000 feet and secure it.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Actually in the Dash, it's probably worse than if the engine just shuts down. It puts a lot of torque on the gear boxes and such and requires immediate attention. The engine failure (provided it feathered itself) you just drive up to 1,000 feet and secure it.

Ditto on that one. An unscheduled prop feather with a PW 120 series engine is a very big deal... If you don't secure it immediately very bad things might result. An engine failure with a functional autofeather is a fairly benign event.

 

[Time Served]

Audio clips can be heard on www.liveatc.net the non flying sounds very calm and collect.

 

[SmitteyB]

Piedmont Airlines was the first Regional Airline to use TCAS.

Thats not what he said dip********************.

He said they were the first to have all airplanes TCAS.

 

[WSurf]

Thats not what he said dip********************.

He said they were the first to have all airplanes TCAS.

And did I disagree with him? Dip********************! LOL