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[General Lee]

And we are the pilots who own the jumpseats that all of you take to your homes in Ft Walton Beach, Pensacola, the Carolinas, etc. Easy on the self-salad tossing there, champ.

We are not lucky that Delta lets us occupy passenger seats. That benefit is part of our compensation package. Without it, we would have to have higher wages in compensation. That's like me saying you are lucky that Delta tosses a few dollars your way to fly airplanes.

Most of the DL crews I've come across in the jumpseats and also when I'm in theirs have been top notch people. Although I do on occasion (about 1/3 of the time) sit in the jumpseat with a quiet captain who does his stuff, and an FO who jumped from the regional boat in the past 2 years talking up a storm and acting like he's been at mainline forever, saying the sh** you do, having forgot that they just got off a 50 seater 18 months ago. But the "Delta is the best thing since sliced bread....I would lick Richard Anderson's rim" stuff gets old after 3 hours into the flight.

It's a form of immaturity, I guess.

Seriously, it is a lot better at mainline. You could have applied too if you had put a little effort into it. Luckily, there will probably be more interview opportunities in the future.(eventually) So, if you are able to give up your weekends off and 4 weeks of vacation, and take a temporary pay cut from your current RJ Captain pay, it would be worth it IMO. It's all a gamble, though. If your comfort zone is Myrtle Beach, then stay where you are at....It sounds like you are "way mature" though. Your 21 year old FOs straight out of Riddle probably think you are.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

Seriously, it is a lot better at mainline. You could have applied too if you had put a little effort into it. Luckily, there will probably be more interview opportunities in the future.(eventually) So, if you are able to give up your weekends off and 4 weeks of vacation, and take a temporary pay cut from your current RJ Captain pay, it would be worth it IMO. It's all a gamble, though. If your comfort zone is Myrtle Beach, then stay where you are at....It sounds like you are "way mature" though. Your 21 year old FOs straight out of Riddle probably think you are.

Bye Bye--General Lee

-It looks like you are "way-stupid," gen.... Go and find RA-he needs his balls polished again.

-Chop, Chop, A-hole!
-And don't forget your hat!

 

[Ski Bum]

As much as I hate to say it, as I work at a regional, there is an old saying "He who has the money makes the rules" and all the regionals can track who has the money in the DAL / DCI relationship. (For those of you who forget easily...just remember how quickly Mesaba filed for bankruptcy when NWA quit paying the bills)

I just want to point out one thing...does anybody else notice that when something good happens at mainline (ie better boarding priority) it is because they "own" the regionals and therefore get to make the decisions, but when something bad happens at mainline (ie parking 737's and regionals get bigger RJ's) it is the regional's fault for "stealing" their flying?

As I said before, mainline has the money and makes the rules, but don't be a little b!+ch and come crying to us when we are "stealing" your flying, because you are damn sure still making the rules then too.

I guess I will just take the S3C priority and see where the NWA / DAL "synergy" takes me.

 

[ChadCRJ]

simply sad. I know a few DAL guys and they are all great people, but honestly is this the place where those so called 5%'s flock or what? The few tools in this thread paint an ugly picture for the rest of you. seriously 12,000+ posts? get laid much?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Once again, pilots do not set these rules, management does.

 

[PuffDriver]

We are not lucky that Delta lets us occupy passenger seats. That benefit is part of our compensation package. Without it, we would have to have higher wages in compensation. That's like me saying you are lucky that Delta tosses a few dollars your way to fly airplanes.

..and that package just changed. It won't be the last. Management at Delta has decided that the time is now for all stakeholders in the financial success of Delta are compensated according to their risk.

As for the jumpseat threats, just try it. That is a war you cannot win. It's not a pilot thing. As JC would say, the pilots at Delta do not decide non-rev benefits, Delta management does. We fully support them in that aspect.

 

[spudskier]

We see plenty of you guys on our seats too. It can go both ways, and more of you want to go to Palm Beach than our guys going to Evansberg or wherever..... Be nice....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Well...with the continued reduction in mainline domestic capacity, it may just be an RJ getting a DAL pilot to Palm Beach, Jacksonville, FLL, MIA, MCO, etc...

(ACL65PILOT) Once again, pilots do not set these rules, management does.

They also set the non-rev policies too... interesting. The self-entitlement/walking on water attitude needs adjustment by a large percentage of the DAL pilot group... it's getting old. By no means am I saying every pilot at DAL is like that, I've met a lot of good people, but DAL pilots (especially the ATL-based pilots) have a REALLY bad reputation throughout the industry.

 

[PuffDriver]

Well...with the continued reduction in mainline domestic capacity, it may just be an RJ getting a DAL pilot to Palm Beach, Jacksonville, FLL, MIA, MCO, etc...




They also set the non-rev policies too... interesting. The self-entitlement/walking on water attitude needs adjustment by a large percentage of the DAL pilot group... it's getting old. By no means am I saying every pilot at DAL is like that, I've met a lot of good people, but DAL pilots (especially the ATL-based pilots) have a REALLY bad reputation throughout the industry.

So that is a max of 12k pilots. EVERY RJ pilot has a bad reputation throughout the industry. How many is that? In short, I say YAWN. Oh, and :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

It's what happens when you work for a company that does not do its own business. It's also going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[staylow]

Fights on, Fights on. Snap 185...I have a feeling things are going to get ugly. Good Luck to anyone trying to commute...

 

[spudskier]

So that is a max of 12k pilots. EVERY RJ pilot has a bad reputation throughout the industry. How many is that? In short, I say YAWN. Oh, and :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

It's what happens when you work for a company that does not do its own business. It's also going to get worse before it gets better.

mm yeah, but RJ pilots are expected to be hair gel, iPod wearing, backpack carrying d-bs (even though I don't own an iPod, a single tube of gel or a backpack) but mainline pilots are expected to be professionals, stand-up community citizens always willing to lend a hand and be the hero in the funny hat. Wouldn't think numbers would matter as much as the pride you should take in the reputation of your pilot group.

THings ARE going to get worse, the process is well into full-steam ahead. I'm lucky in that I can at least commute on my own airline.

 

[jesterjames]

Once again, pilots do not set these rules, management does.

Hope that is your response if and when management gives away more flying or god forbid larger aircraft to DCI. Don't give me the scope argument either because DALPA already once loosened it. That is a cop out response.

 

[samballs]

We are employees of the company that sells the tickets and owns the seats. You aren't. You are lucky that Delta even lets you occupy passenger seats. You will not get any sympathy from us.

Get over yourself. the way you guys vote on contracts, Delta flying will all be outsorced. Don't tell me there is a movement to bring it back. That movement is on this board and not in the majority of Delta pilots. The junior guys are trying to bring it back knowing furlough soon if not.

 

[Broke in CVG]

We see plenty of you guys on our seats too. It can go both ways, and more of you want to go to Palm Beach than our guys going to Evansberg or wherever..... Be nice....

Bye Bye--General Lee

Ah.... If you are going CVG to PBI, then you are going to have to stop by my office and say hello. That's all I do April & May.

 

[XPOO]

SKYW actually negotiates every year with Delta on all non-rev flying issues. SKYW main priority in those negotiations is to keep our boarding priorities on our own aircraft. Delta counteracts by raising our fees. We take with a smile.

Same with United. United counteracts by charging us to fly 1st Class on our own aircraft but free to sit in coach. And that's fine with us, too.

This is how SKW/ASA has managed to keep thier boarding priorities over their mainline counterparts.

 

[doh]

I still wake up every morning and say a little prayer of thanks that I am no longer under the tyranny of the Evil Empire.