Comair Staffing Update

[samballs]

No more flying to be loss by Oh in 2009. F off Acarpe, maybe you will get to fly a 700 or 170 next year.

 

[staylow]

Lairs are all alike

Delta says we are getting rid of several DCI carriers. One is going to be Comair.

Where and when did Delta say this?

If you can show one shread of truth to this statement I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Though I know already you will be unable to produce any sustance of proof.

Anyways...good luck with that.

 

[acarpe3448]

Where and when did Delta say this?

If you can show one shread of truth to this statement I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Though I know already you will be unable to produce any sustance of proof.

Anyways...good luck with that.

Sunday, October 26, 2008
ATLANTA — For Delta Air Lines' regional carriers, it's survival of the fittest.
Atlanta-based Delta has been working to improve dismal on-time performance at some of its Delta Connection contract carriers, and it has seen some successes, including from Atlanta-based Atlantic Southeast Airlines. Meanwhile, it has eliminated other Delta Connection contracts, and more cuts could be in store.
Crowded airspace
Delta and Northwest have nine different regional airline partners; three are subsidiaries. These carriers fly smaller planes on shorter routes or fill non-peak schedule slots, in exchange for a fee. But Delta is trimming the roster and says the best-performing will be most likely to survive.

Delta connection carriers
ZAtlantic Southeast Airlines, a SkyWest Airlines subsidiary
ZChautauqua Airlines, a Republic Airways subsidiary
ZComair, a Delta subsidiary
ZFreedom Airlines, a Mesa Air Group subsidiary
ZPinnacle Airlines
ZShuttle America, a Republic Airways subsidiary
ZSkyWest Airlines

Northwest airlink carriers
ZCompass Airlines, a Northwest subsidiary
ZMesaba Airlines, a Northwest subsidiary
ZPinnacle Airlines

Source: The companies.

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Delta plans to cut costs and consolidate regional operations after its pending merger with Northwest Airlines, and it has told its Connection carriers that the best performers will survive.

 

[staylow]

I stand corrected...

I concede...I have never heard of a single contract DL has had with any carrier that they have successfully cancelled. Though your article says there has been...I am corrected. You sir are not a liar...I am corrected there also. Good luck.

 

[N813CA]

acarpe3448

It will take me some time to find this article, but at the end it said that DCI has 7-9 carriers and they felt that 6-8 would be good. I laughed at this as getting rid of Mesa counts. My numbers might not be right but the ratio is %100 correct. When I find this article we will all be laughing at you. You are not a nice person.

 

[PA44Jockey]

By Date of Hire after the Jan furloughs and downgrades:

Most Junior CVG 70/90 CA - Nov 29, 1999
Most Junior CVG 50 CA - July 19, 1999
Most Junior JFK 50 CA - Dec 15, 2000

Most Junior CVG 70/90 FO - May 16, 2005
Most Junior CVG 50 FO - Jan 8, 2007

Most Junior FO - Jan 8, 2007

A buddy of mine talked to Forecasting and Planning and RP told him OH is going to have 1054 pilots on property including those on leave by the end of the end of the first quarter 09. I think that will take the seniority list down to either Jan 05, or end of 04 for the most junior FO.

 

[IFLYIMC]

You can't be talking about mainline, are you? There is absolutely no way any rep at DAL would know this yet. Not until after the seniority list is final on Dec 8. Also, as pointed out in other threads, things PICK UP in summer. Furloughing in early spring while ramping up for a summer schedule is not the normal practice.

1) Pilot staffing for announced flying cutbacks have already been taken into account. 2) More retirements to come. 3) NWA needs to be BROUGHT UP to DAL's staffing model. 4) Enormous training costs for furloughed pilots who would go to Compass(we'd take ALL of their positions). 5) Enormous retraining costs if recalled back to mainline within 2 years.

I'm not saying DAL won't furlough, but this rep on your jumpseat seems uninformed. Could it be you we just trying to get under acarpe's skin for all his (stupid) posts? I understand if that's the case, but I just wanted to set the REAL record strait.

I don't think you will take ALL the positions just 90%, For your reading enjoyment;

No more than ninety percent (90%) of pilot positions will be preserved for Northwest Airlines pilots (a "preserved position"). No more than ten
22-3 Section 22 - Seniority July 26, 2007
percent (10%) of pilot positions will be preserved for pilots electing protected rights status (a "rights status position") at Compass Airlines. In the event of a reduction in the total number of positions at Compass, the number of "preserved positions" and "rights status positions" will be adjusted to maintain the nine to one (9:1) ratio. "Rights status" will be removed from pilots in reverse seniority order and such pilot will again have flow rights to Northwest.

 

[titans10]

I know that is everyones fall back option at nwa. You guys and gals at compass knew that was/is possible when you were hired.

 

[MJ42]

I don't think you will take ALL the positions just 90%, For your reading enjoyment;

Excuse the error, I should have said "PRACTICALLY ALL". Hopefully it won't happen. Anyway, forgot to add voluntary leaves on my list of reasons we MAY NOT furlough. You better hope I'm right or you may have plenty of time to catch up on more reading.

 

[Flybywire44]

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081205/BIZ01/812070302

 

[V-1]

1180 total pilots down from 1477... with probably more to come after that. I think it'll probably settle down to about 1000 when it's all said and done. Although that is subject to change on a dime like everything else in this industry.

Down from 1700+ pilots would be more accurate, as I recall.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Down from 1700+ pilots would be more accurate, as I recall.

I was 1834 when I was hired in april '05...now just about at the 1000 mark. I'm not furloughed (yet), but looking at leaving to another regional closer to home and working on my accounting degree at the same time

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Down from 1700+ pilots would be more accurate, as I recall.

I was 1970 when I was hired in 2004 with two classes that came in after me. I think it was right at about 2000 before the first Comair furlough.

 

[V-1]

I almost posted 1800+ but didn't want to give information that might have been exaggerated.

Best wishes WMU. Sounds like you have a plan of action in the likely event Delta/Comair never gets it together.

 

[PA44Jockey]

I was in the summer of 04 as well. I too am not furloughed yet, but am probably leaving.