Comair hires Delta pilots...

[jarhead]

Its ok, you can just call me Doug!

No, I think I'll just call you Mr. Taylor.

 

[737 Pylt]

Jarhead strikes out!

No, I think I'll just call you Mr. Taylor.

Sorry to dissapoint you jarhead, but I'm not that person! Sheez I sound like surplus! If I was I would be living in the desert southwest, and I would be flying the MD88.
regards,

737

 

[FlyingSig]

And you would let us keep our seniority numbers at Comair if we went to Delta? Now, that is an offer I can sink my teeth into! Are you serious, or just kidding me?

Actually SDD that is current Delta policy and always has been (you can even verify this with AirInc). If you are ever hired by Delta you are not required to sign anything or show any proof that you resigned from your last company. You are not allowed to engage in outside flying without company permission (so you can't work for both at the same time) but there is no requirement to be off the senority list at another company. Delta has hired other furloughed pilots (I personally know of 1 American and 2 USAir from the early 90's furloughs that were hired and still retained their recall rights...they chose to stay at Delta however) and requires nothing from them. The assumption is that they would want to stay at Delta.

The key of course is passing the interview and actually getting hired (which would have been the same for any Delta furloughee applying to Comair).

So SDD, if Comair furloughed you and Delta hired you...would you go back to Comair when you got your recall letter?

 

[jarhead]

Sorry to dissapoint you jarhead, but I'm not that person! Sheez I sound like surplus! If I was I would be living in the desert southwest, and I would be flying the MD88.
regards,

737

Oh, I'm not disappointed Doug. In fact I've got you correctly pegged despite your denial. You leave way too many footprints to be anyone else.

"Sheez", one of your frequent typical cartoon like answers on the ALPA boards where you use your own name. Your references to Rodney King as a "brother" on this forum, and your frequent references to yourself being black on the ALPA boards, as well as your photo on your own web page. Then there is your admonition on this forum as well as on the ALPA boards that posts you disagree with are too long. I believe you once stated that posts that are longer than two or three sentences are a waste of the readers time over on the ALPA boards. But, the final bit of evidence as to who you are is your repeated and constant concern with a pilot from Comair whose name is Wil, as being a "loser" with his RJDC Cronies and Dan Ford. Then you try to make that connection of dots from "Wil" to that person being "Surplus1" because they both can articulate thoughts in paragraphs longer than one of your own cartoon like answers. I happen to know on a personal level, no less than seven Comair pilots well enough to have eaten dinner with them in eating establishments around CVG. One of those Comair pilots is in fact a pilot named "Wil", and I know he does not even post on flightinfo.com. I also have a neighbor who is a Comair captain who does not ever post here or on the ALPA boards, and he and his wife know Wil and his wife on a personal basis. Whether or not he is the ‘Wil’ you refer to is of course conjecture on my part, but there are not too many people who go by the name of ‘Wil’ that spell it with only one letter ‘l’. He (Wil) once posted on flightinfo.com a couple years ago, and made a grand total of three posts under the pen name of "Syllogism" before abandoning this web site. I have other indications as to who you are as well, but I will not go into that detail.

It is you, Doug, who opened your own can of worms with probing for actual names, so now live with yours being exposed. BTW, why no response to my posting about your March 3rd posting here by 737pylt wherein you decry all the people who resort to name calling as being in poor taste and that it’s like you’re in high school when you see it. You stated in your March post that when people resort to name calling they lose all credibility for what ever else they write. I agree with that assessment, and as such you also have no credibility, as here just five months later you fill your posts with name calling and vulgarities. Are you Dr. Jeckyl, or Mr. Hyde? Or, are you just a plain hypocrite, Mr Taylor?

So, tell me again why I should place any credibility in your denial as to who you are? By your own words, people who resort to name calling have no credibility.

 

[bvt1151]

Hey ATR driver:
This was an A and B conversation. I don't recall anyone asking or even caring about your input.
C-ya!

awww. Now that takes me back....TO FIFTH GRADE!
Grow up.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

I think his posts have shown how grown up he is going to get.

 

[skydiverdriver]

Sig,

You ask some strange questions sir! What I was hoping for was a way to keep my Comair seniority so that if I got a job at Delta and was furloughed, I could go back to Comair and keep my position. That seems like a fair trade, for letting your furloughed pilots keep their seniority when they come to Comair.

 

[FlyingSig]

Sig,

You ask some strange questions sir! What I was hoping for was a way to keep my Comair seniority so that if I got a job at Delta and was furloughed, I could go back to Comair and keep my position. That seems like a fair trade, for letting your furloughed pilots keep their seniority when they come to Comair.

Sounds like super senority via a flow back ... ala CoEx .... thought you didn't want a flow thru/ flow back.... that's something you'll have to take up with your MEC as DALPA offered that but was told to shove it.

Or perhaps when Delta starts hiring again you can convince Comair management to let you go on a long term leave of absense so you can hedge your bets against future industry turmoil... that would be fair, right?

 

[737 Pylt]

no wonder they call you jarhead

"Sheez", one of your frequent typical cartoon like answers on the ALPA boards

This is the proof positive that you think that I am a Certain person! you are an even bigger bafoon than I give you credit for! LMAO!

Then you try to make that connection of dots from "Wil" to that person being "Surplus1"

That's because it is the same person!

One of those Comair pilots is in fact a pilot named "Wil", and I know he does not even post on flightinfo.com.

Wrong, Wil does infact post here, as he has been caught using postings from here on the ALPA national forum!

It is you, Doug, who opened your own can of worms with probing for actual names,

Son:
I feel real sorry for you when he finds out you are spreading his name all over this forum, and indeed, I hope he files a lawsuit against you for defamation of character!

So, tell me again why I should place any credibility in your denial as to who you are?

Because I am not in fact not that person. I won't use his first and last name. BTW, when he finds out all you said about him, you are in big trouble dude!
cheers,
737

 

[jarhead]

This is the proof positive that you think that I am a Certain person! you are an even bigger bafoon than I give you credit for! LMAO!

That's because it is the same person!

Wrong, Wil does infact post here, as he has been caught using postings from here on the ALPA national forum!
Son:
I feel real sorry for you when he finds out you are spreading his name all over this forum, and indeed, I hope he files a lawsuit against you for defamation of character!

Because I am not in fact not that person. I won't use his first and last name. BTW, when he finds out all you said about him, you are in big trouble dude!
cheers,
737

“no wonder they call you jarhead”

No “they” don’t call me jarhead, “I” call myself jarhead. That’s a common nick-name for a United States Marine, in case you did not know that.

Wow, I don’t know how I can stop laughing long enough to respond to your moronic assertions. My stomach hurts from laughing at you, Doug.

I personally know Wil, and I personally know Surplus1 They are not the same person, and they are so far apart from being that, that it defies everything that is in your dream world. LMAO. I correspond with both of them at different e-mail addresses on many topics, most of them being non aviation related.

I am well aware that ‘Wil’ has copied posts written by Surplus1 off the flightinfo.com boards. I have seen them on the ALPA boards, and he always states that the copied posts have come from another pilot from another board. You also know that. They both happen to believe that Dan Ford has a just and righteous cause; one with you are at odds with.

“Son”???? Look at my profile Doug, I am 64 years of age. I’m old enough to be your dad, not your son. “Sheez”, to copy one of your favorite terms, I’d have thought you’d be smart enough to figure that out on your own.

Go ahead and “sue me” Doug, for defamation of character. How can I defame your character when I speak the truth of what I see you post here and in other places? Are you stating that the “real” Doug Taylor does not state everything I have put up here? Nice try, “son”. Ya can’t defame someone when you just state the truth about them. Also, while you are in this fantasy world of yours, maybe Wil and Surplus1 can sue you for making your invalid statements about them. But even a better case would be Dan Ford suing you for defamatory statements you make about him, both on this board and on the ALPA Boards. And you know he has the cajones to initiate a law suit. How do you like them apples, Hmmmm?

BTW, this third time you have avoided answering my observation of your hypocrisy from you 3-03-04 post about how it’s not nice to call people names, but you do it all the time. Care to reply this time? You, sir, are a cosmic joke, and your quiver is all out of arrows.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Jarhead,
I think my 8 yr old is more mature than this 'person'. I am beginning to believe he is a fake. Hey, maybe someone didn't 'logoff' somewhere....hmmm

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Oh and thanks for being a Marine.

 

[jarhead]

Jarhead,
I think my 8 yr old is more mature than this 'person'. I am beginning to believe he is a fake. Hey, maybe someone didn't 'logoff' somewhere....hmmm

You may be onto something, ATR DRIVR, both in the 8 year old maturity level assessment, or a computer left "logged on" by mistake. It really is hard for me to believe that a Delta pilot, who states he got out of high school over 20 years ago, could be intellectually as juvenile as 737pylt seems to be. But, if that's the case, his computer must be left on an awful lot of the time for his kid to have access to this and the ALPA boards as well.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Stranger things have happend I'm sure.

 

[Aerosmith]

C'mon Douglas Taylor. We all know its you!

 

[737 Pylt]

C'mon Douglas Taylor. We all know its you!

I hate to dissapoint everyone, but I'm not him. I thank you for the compliment, but not so! If it were true, I would be, MD88 pylot or something of the similar. I would live in the Southwest, and I would be black. I am none of the above. I live on the Eastern half of the US, am White, and currently reside on the 73N!
Jar head is so sure that I'm Doug, and I'm so sure his pal Surplus is Wil, then we can just agree to disagree, and leave it at that!
737

 

[FDJ2]

Sig,

What I was hoping for was a way to keep my Comair seniority so that if I got a job at Delta and was furloughed, I could go back to Comair and keep my position. That seems like a fair trade, for letting your furloughed pilots keep their seniority when they come to Comair.

PMFJI, but your issue is with CMR allowing you to keep your seniority number if you chose to move on, not whether DAL would require you to resign your seniority number and recall rights to CMR if you were furloughed from CMR and came to DAL. A fair trade would be for the DAL pilots to drag their feet for 32 mos after you were furloughed and then allow you to keep your seniority number if you were hired at DAL, but only after your recalls have been announced and DAL hiring was winding down.

But no need to worry, DAL never asked me or anyone else that I'm aware of to resign their seniority number once hired at DAL. So you already have that option, an option that was denied to furloughed ALPA pilots at CMR with the support of the CMR MEC.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

Not quite right, FDJ2, it has not been foot dragging by the Comair pilots but rather the Delta MEC. They took over a year to even approach the Comair MEC and that was only because they had been directed by their own members. Haven't been back since then. After the announcement, it was reported here and elsewhere that the Delta MEC vehementantly denied that they had struck any deal of any sort over the Comair MEC's restated postion so again, no thanks to DALPA.

Three years will be noted here soon, and not a single furloughed Delta pilot will in all likelihood been on our list. That is just tragic.

And that's your fault, not ours.

 

[surplus1]

A fair trade would be for the DAL pilots to drag their feet for 32 mos after you were furloughed and then allow you to keep your seniority number if you were hired at DAL, but only after your recalls have been announced and DAL hiring was winding down.

FDJ2,

Not really trying to make waves but I have to ask. Does the above statement infer that the Delta pilots not only "own" all of Delta Air Lines flying and the Delta Code as previously claimed, but also control Delta's hiring policies?

Since so many of you are always 'allowing', 'permitting' or 'approving'f of all sorts of things that happen at Delta, I'm just trying to get your persective of just how many things that others think belong to Delta Air Lines are in fact "owned" or controlled by the Delta pilots. As an outsider reading what you all write, it appears that your powers are without boundary. That's awesome.

Rumor has it that the Delta pilots also "own and control" the ALPA as well. Is that true too?

I also hear that even St. Peter has no power to check the credentials of Delta pilots at the pearly gates since you all have automatic right of entry (in your scope clause of course).

All of those wonderful assumed powers just make little people like me seeth with envy. How I wish that we were numbered among God's chosen people. It must really be swell.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ2,

Not really trying to make waves but I have to ask. Does the above statement infer that the Delta pilots not only "own" all of Delta Air Lines flying and the Delta Code as previously claimed, but also control Delta's hiring policies?

No Surplus, it's just lost in translation. Perhaps I should have said the DAL MEC could drag its feet for 32 months like the CMR MEC before supporting the hiring of furloughed pilots, once hiring was winding down at CMR and recalls were announced, without having them resign their seniority number. That would be more in line with the pathetic pettiness of the CMR MEC and their recent epiphany.