Colgan

[GEORGE DUBYA]

I heard we are getting saab 2000's in Jan. I overheard a conversation yesterday in the chief pilot's office while i was waiting to get yelled at

 

[Kaman]

Hello,
That would be great, but I'll believe it when I see one in Colgan (Continental Connection) colors. I am also surprised given the overload that the training department is that they can introduce a new type in that short a period of time. So, I'm a little skeptical of the Super SAAB being on the property in January. Drop me a PM, I'd appreciate it.

Regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead aka HYA Hot Reserve Biotch

 

[Prop2Jet]

yeah George thats good info! After that I heard 747-400's!!! Hahahahh You load clown! Hows upgrade going?

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

Shut up prop. Upgrade is great. How is your wife and my kid? SOrry about that I didn't know it was your wife.

 

[MHT340bcapt]

Steve told me we were getting 50 seat prop aircraft (saab or Dash 8-300) to replace express jet on some of the short routes they fly in CLE. He said the start date was late spring next year and they expect to be caught up in the training department by then.

 

[suupah]

I also heard that they might be getting some of mesaba's saabs and possibly fly of their routes. Rumors

 

[NEDude]

Steve told me we were getting 50 seat prop aircraft (saab or Dash 8-300) to replace express jet on some of the short routes they fly in CLE. He said the start date was late spring next year and they expect to be caught up in the training department by then.

Funny what management tells their pilots. CommutAir management is telling folks that they have the exclusive contract in hand for CLE cabin class turboprop flying for Continental. A signed and sealed cost plus deal as of last week.

Interesting to see who will be right.

 

[oiltycoon]

I also heard that they might be getting some of mesaba's saabs and possibly fly of their routes. Rumors

Perhaps....... 10 Mesaba Saabs could/will be gone by January 4th.

 

[EagleRJ]

I heard we are getting saab 2000's in Jan. I overheard a conversation yesterday in the chief pilot's office while i was waiting to get yelled at

Production for the Saab 2000 ended some time ago, and only around 60 were made.

You think there are enough on the market right now to make up a "fleet"?

 

[turbinej]

Just FYI the SAAB 2000 was never certified for FAR 121 flying. General Motors had 3 of them back about 3+ years ago. They tried to get them on a 121 cerificate, but could not. Something to do with the certification of the aircraft. It needed something on the aircraft but did not have it when certification was done to meet FAR 121 or 135. It can fly part 91 in the US that is about it. I don't know if you remember at all Pro Air that was operating out of Detroit City running 737. They tried to aquire the SAAB 2000 from GM to start a little regional but were unable due to the certification on them. This was back about 7 or eight years ago.

 

[English]

I never listen to Colgan rumors because they are all just wishful thinking most of the time.

However, I was in Sterling VA this summer and visited Saab. They did confirm the Colgans were in discussions for the 2000...

 

[Prop2Jet]

George you crack me up man! How is the hotel up in Canada?

 

[ImBatman]

Perhaps....... 10 Mesaba Saabs could/will be gone by January 4th.

It's actually January 10th, . . . buy who is counting

 

[Regional4life]

Just FYI the SAAB 2000 was never certified for FAR 121 flying. General Motors had 3 of them back about 3+ years ago. They tried to get them on a 121 cerificate, but could not. Something to do with the certification of the aircraft. It needed something on the aircraft but did not have it when certification was done to meet FAR 121 or 135. It can fly part 91 in the US that is about it. I don't know if you remember at all Pro Air that was operating out of Detroit City running 737. They tried to aquire the SAAB 2000 from GM to start a little regional but were unable due to the certification on them. This was back about 7 or eight years ago.

GM doesn't have a 121 certificate, therefore they don't need them certified for 121 (And why would they, more operating expense). They were however (the Saab 2000) certified for JAR Ops 1 which is slightly more stringent on operating than FAR part 121. (BTW, 121 is how you operate, not how you certify an airplane, that's FAR 25.) Saab 2000 will have no problem being certified on a 121 (operating certificate) in the US. It's all about who writes your operating procedures at your airline at that point, because, it is already certified to fly (Part 25). Big difference Hombre.

 

[Godfather]

Just heard from a Big Cheese in MX at Manasshole that Colgan just signed a deal with Eagle for 20 Saab 340B+ models mainly going to United and Continental. They are also negotiating in aquiring the 10 Mesaba planes up for grabs. There is a possiblity of the Beeches going away but no one has said anything on that. He wouldn't deny the 50 seat rumor saying it's looking more like it will happen sooner than later. I'll see it when I believe it.

 

[flyupder]

Well that's good news. Now if we can only figure out how to get the bids to come a little quicker on the Continental side and get rid of these standups, life would be better.

 

[mrmarcus81]

Standups work good for the peeps that live here in IAH