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Interesting.. right off of the United website... (look under press releases)




Chicago, August 15, 2005 United Airlines announced today an agreement-in-principle with new flying partner, Colgan Air that will add six Saab 340-B turboprop aircraft to the United Express fleet.

Colgan will begin serving United Express routes out of Washington Dulles International Airport on Oct. 4, 2005. Colgan will fly six United Express markets currently operated by Shuttle America from Dulles to Allentown, Pa.; Binghamton, N.Y.; Charleston, W. Va.; Charlottesville, Va.; State College, Pa and White Plains, N.Y.

"We are pleased to welcome Colgan Air to the United Express family," says Todd Arkenberg, managing director-United Express Performance. "This agreement gives United Express a high-quality service provider, while maintaining an economical cost structure. For our customers, it provides them with additional seats and safe, convenient access to United's unsurpassed global route network in these six markets.”

According to the terms of the pro rate agreement, operating costs will be paid by Colgan Air while a portion of the revenue from connecting passengers will be shared between United Airlines and Colgan Air.

Though Colgan aircraft will replace Shuttle America's turboprop fleet for United Express in Dulles, Shuttle America will continue to operate 70-seat regional jets for United Express on many routes from Washington-Dulles.

About United

United Airlines (OTCBB: UALAQ.OB) is the world's second largest airline and operates more than 3,400 flights a day on United, United Express and Ted to more than 200 U.S. domestic and international destinations from its hubs in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Denver, Chicago and Washington, D.C. With key global air rights in the Asia-Pacific region, Europe and Latin America, United is one of the largest international carriers based in the United States. United is also a founding member of Star Alliance, which provides connections for our customers to nearly 800 destinations in 139 countries worldwide. United's 58,500 employees reside in every U.S. state and in many countries around the world. News releases and other information about United can be found at the company's Web site at united.com.
 
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proud_dude said:
Interesting.. right off of the United website... (look under press releases)




Chicago, August 15, 2005 United Airlines announced today an agreement-in-principle with new flying partner, Colgan Air that will add six Saab 340-B turboprop aircraft to the United Express fleet.

Colgan will begin serving United Express routes out ofWashingtonDullesInternationalAirportonOct. 4, 2005. Colgan will fly six United Express markets currently operated by ShuttleAmericafrom Dulles toAllentown,Pa.;Binghamton,N.Y.;Charleston, W. Va.;Charlottesville,Va.;State College,PaandWhite Plains,N.Y.

"We are pleased to welcome Colgan Air to the United Express family," says Todd Arkenberg, managing director-United Express Performance. "This agreement gives United Express a high-quality service provider, while maintaining an economical cost structure. For our customers, it provides them with additional seats and safe, convenient access to United's unsurpassed global route network in these six markets.”

According to the terms of the pro rate agreement, operating costs will be paid by Colgan Air while a portion of the revenue from connecting passengers will be shared between United Airlines and Colgan Air.

Though Colgan aircraft will replace ShuttleAmerica's turboprop fleet for United Express in Dulles, ShuttleAmericawill continue to operate 70-seat regional jets for United Express on many routes from Washington-Dulles.

About United

United Airlines (OTCBB: UALAQ.OB) is the world's second largest airline and operates more than 3,400 flights a day on United, United Express and Ted to more than 200 U.S. domestic and international destinations from its hubs in Los Angeles,San Francisco,Denver,ChicagoandWashington,D.C. With key global air rights in the Asia-Pacific region, Europe and Latin America, United is one of the largest international carriers based in theUnited States. United is also a founding member of Star Alliance, which provides connections for our customers to nearly 800 destinations in 139 countries worldwide. United's 58,500 employees reside in everyU.S.state and in many countries around the world. News releases and other information about United can be found at the company's Web site at united.com.

Who cares? Colgan is the most dangerous regional flying. I take that back, I care. Thanks for the heads up, I will make sure my family won't be flying on those routes!
 

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MELIT said:
Who cares? Colgan is the most dangerous regional flying. I take that back, I care. Thanks for the heads up, I will make sure my family won't be flying on those routes!

I second that statement!!! What a slapstick operation!!! Mesa and Colgan should merge. Would be like the offspring of an incestrial relationship.
 

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Looks like Colgan will really be short of flight crews for Saab. It's probably a good news for new hires.
 

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MELIT said:
Who cares? Colgan is the most dangerous regional flying. I take that back, I care. Thanks for the heads up, I will make sure my family won't be flying on those routes!

Howare they dangerous. what is the safety record at colgan compared to other regionals?
 
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Howare they dangerous. what is the safety record at colgan compared to other regionals?

Its not their saftey record that I'm worried about, its their current attitude towards maintaining their aircraft thats dangerous.

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Your right all you guys. They hired me and I have one eye and never preflight the plane. I was curious all of you guys who do you fly for? Which Microsoft Simulator virtual airline club are you in? Have fun emptying the drains on the cessnas you just soloed in you bunch of tools.
 

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Yeah we are so dangerous! In fact we are so bad the FAA allows us to broaden our relationships with others just so we can endanger people. Man you people are so full of it. Hey since you are all experts on aviation safety why don't you just work for the NTSB. Go ahead flame away....
 

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PS. Go fly your Cessnas maybe if your lucky the RG will be available--tool bags of tardos....:)
 

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In fact we are so bad the FAA allows us to broaden our relationships with others just so we can endanger people

Just an FYI... The FAA cannot stop the buffet eating family from signing an agreement with anyone. What they can do, and are, is evaluating your MX department on a daily basis. Don't be surprised to see the entire operation shut down minutes after the next engine failure.

Fly safe and keep BOTH eyes open on those preflights.
 

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chperplt said:
Just an FYI... The FAA cannot stop the buffet eating family from signing an agreement with anyone. What they can do, and are, is evaluating your MX department on a daily basis. Don't be surprised to see the entire operation shut down minutes after the next engine failure.

Fly safe and keep BOTH eyes open on those preflights.

I like that, thats the spoken truth with a dash of humor. BOTH EYES GENTELMEN, BOTH EYES!
 

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chperplt said:
What they can do, and are, is evaluating your MX department on a daily basis.

There is nothing new in what you said since it applies to any airline out there, or rather to any airline in a state of rapid expansion.


chperplt said:
Don't be surprised to see the entire operation shut down minutes after the next engine failure.

It's interesting how a much confidence there is in a such a subjective statement (unless, of course you work for the FAA) :)

chperplt said:
Fly safe and keep BOTH eyes open on those preflights.

Thanks for the friendly advice. BTW, are you currently employed by Colgan, or you used to work at some point in life? If so, why your posts carry so much resentment in regards to Colgan? (and if not, why write posts about Colgan??).

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It's interesting how a much confidence there is in a such a subjective statement (unless, of course you work for the FAA) :)

No, I don't work for the FAA. I do however have many very close friends at the FAA and NTSB. My comments, as subjective as they may seem, come from fact. Time will tell... Hopefully before a fatal accident.

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BTW, are you currently employed by Colgan, or you used to work at some point in life? If so, why your posts carry so much resentment in regards to Colgan? (and if not, why write posts about Colgan??).

My resentment lies in the fact that the same practices that caused the deaths of two of my friends 2 years ago continue today. The Colgan family has not learned a thing from these deaths and more deaths will result. For that, I have every reason in the world to resent the buffet eating family... And yes, I worked there for quite a while.
 

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chperplt said:
My resentment lies in the fact that the same practices that caused the deaths of two of my friends 2 years ago continue today. The Colgan family has not learned a thing from these deaths and more deaths will result. For that, I have every reason in the world to resent the buffet eating family... And yes, I worked there for quite a while.

Dammit, Chperplt. I took the job here on your recomendation. I might add that you were right about a lot of things here (both good and bad). The problem with me is that I'm an eternally optimstic person, so I've got syntax error here all the time, because I keep getting bent... and I don't carry any lube.

I sure wish I could vent the details of my anger, but I can't, because any one member of the family could go get a scheduler and would know instantly who I was because they're the ones bending me over... with my pants on! You know who I'm talking about... the family-member who runs scheduling, the witch "I----", and Mr. Grumpy: "L----". They've all had their turns with me.

The thing that kills me is that scheduling doesn't give a carp that they're wizzing the pilot-group off by their short-sighted quick-fixes. Pilots leave. The training department is crying mercy because they can't keep up with the exodus. If I were Head-of-Training, I'd crawl up scheduling's back-door and park it for a while until they quit pooping on our plates.

This is all off-the-record, naturally.

On the record, this is a great company with great pilots. I'm going to keep my nose to the grindstone and continue to vote "no". My dad is going to be 60 soon and is looking for a job after UAL. Thanks for nothing, ALPA.

Shy
 
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Are you saying they didn't even have the common courtesy to offer you a reach around?
 
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