flywrite.....thanks for the info..i'm checking my sources..jo's entity called Bartow Partners bought the block of cc air stock.. I wonder if he owns any interest in Texas Pacific.. if it's a private corp, you can't get a list of shareholders, but I saw the marvin Davis offer yesterday after the texas Pacific story... in any event, do you think David seigel will do the kind of job with us air, as gorodn bethune did in the early nineties with CAL?