Coex Vs. CHQ

[FlyChicaga]

That is just about the dumbest post I've ever seen.

 

[Airpiraterob]

im at one of them....i would have to say either one really. ive met all kinds of people from each place and really...it comes down to....i guess...whatever store-location youd rather buy the same value-meal from.

 

[FrontierFan]

Ok....

Just trying to answer a question and wonder why you are getting ready to settle for another sh1t a$$ contract that I had to hear about for the last two years. Ever since all the CHQ "sold out" chatter started I could not wait to see what Coex was going to get for all of their talk and now hear it is...a spitting image of CHQ's pay scale. And we were trying to shut down an alter ego airline and be one of the first to make forward steps since the towers fell.

But I am sure; at least I hope that with all 1,100 hrs you have not been there long enough to know what the last year was like. I am sure that I must have seen you in Houston with your brand new flight kit and brand new ALPA sticker.

Again no offence to Coex guys. It is too bad that your awesome hiring practices let some high time ex-windycity dildos slip though the cracks.

FlyChicaga: Just to make sure I have this right you have "Aircraft Experience" on the C152, C172, and the PA28? Thats awesome!

Night.

 

[jumppilot]

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[jumppilot]

Don't care anymore.

 

[Prop Trash]

The funny thing was that they all looked the same. Early twenties, perfectly parted hair and all kinds of stories about “how coming from instructing to this job was going to be great.”

I've noticed this also and I work there. When I was at the training center a few months ago I saw a new-hire class and could have sworn they were all clones from the same embryo. Maybe since a female runs the HR department she only hires "her type." That's just my theory.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

This isn't flame bait, but I'm sure many of you here will take it as such..

I heard from CHQ mgmt. that our fifth code (yes, we now have five as announced by the company) is Continental. So now that we are going to be competing against you, what is the difference between Coex and CHQ?

Just trying to stay within the topic of the thread..I love working for a contract carrier. I can smell the seniority building!

Jumppilot,

Care to tell me who your source was in management that was telling you about a supposed code-share with CAL? I'm somewhat curious.

Frankly, your comment about "smelloing seniority building" is pretty sad. We are all professional pilots. Seniority is a funny thing. Timing is a funny thing. It is amazing what a few months of seniority will do for one's career and furthermore, amazing what a few odd circumstances can do to destroy one's career expectations.

Neal Schwartz
Chairman
XJT Negotiating Committee

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Ok....

Just trying to answer a question and wonder why you are getting ready to settle for another sh1t a$$ contract that I had to hear about for the last two years. Ever since all the CHQ "sold out" chatter started I could not wait to see what Coex was going to get for all of their talk and now hear it is...a spitting image of CHQ's pay scale.

CHQ certainly had their own challenges during their contact negotiations process. I, more than anyone, can understand that. What I can't understand are comments such as yours above when you clearly have absolutely zero understanding not only of the economics behind our deal but also of not only the work rules in our current agreement but also in our new ones. You are as bad as the morons from my company who ridiculed you for sigining your TA. Our scale is not as high as we'd have liked, but it is higher than yours, and the other areas of the TA make our working conditions and economics far superior to yours. Does that make us better? No. It all boils down to leverage - a concept I have struggled to try to present to some of our own pilots. Clearly you guys were fighting a battle that we didn't have to fight. Keep your head high, be a professional, and keep your "I upgraded in year 2 so who's the better company now" banter to yourself because some of us know what it is like to be a 2nd year captain and then a 5th year FO.

-Neal

 

[jumppilot]

Neal,

I deleted my post after realizing you are right.

I'm tired of all these XJet (actually, the same five) people spouting about how CHQ's contract brings down the industry and how XJet is here to save the day.

As for revealing my source, I'd rather not until the ink is signed, as you are right, this industry has a funny way of turning around...We'll see if I'm right come 2005.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Neal,

I deleted my post after realizing you are right.

I'm tired of all these XJet (actually, the same five) people spouting about how CHQ's contract brings down the industry and how XJet is here to save the day.

As for revealing my source, I'd rather not until the ink is signed, as you are right, this industry has a funny way of turning around...We'll see if I'm right come 2005.

Thanks Jump. I'm still trying to figure out what "smelloing" is above. Not sure how those typos made it through my post!

Take care and fly safe.

-Neal

 

[FlyChicaga]

FrontierFan: is about all I can say to that second, well thought out, post.

 

[Corbon]

Posted by FrontierFan:

I just came from CHQ and I tell you what. We used to run into a whole lot of disgruntled CoEx guys. After hearing their stories I could understand. One of my last trips had me in HOU and in the same hotel as all the CoEx new guys. The funny thing was that they all looked the same. Early twenties, perfectly parted hair and all kinds of stories about “how coming from instructing to this job was going to be great.”

Remember, HOU is NOT the same as IAH. This is especially important when programming an FMS. Equally important, not encouraging the flaming new COEX gate agents by the IAH Holiday Inn pool to bring over their fat, drunk, horny female co-workers.