Co-pilot opportunities- Mass

[flighttrainer]

Retired airline Captain-World wide experience. Looking for flying opportunities in Eastern Massachusetts area. Just want to keep involved-No reasonable offer refused.

 

[BigMike]

I don't suppose it would do us under-employed pilots on the way up any good to suggest that you buy a Bonanza and fly for fun on the weekends.
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=138621

 

[emspilot 01]

Retired Pilots....

I don't suppose it would do us under-employed pilots on the way up any good to suggest that you buy a Bonanza and fly for fun on the weekends.
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=138621

There are a lot of pilots out there of all ages looking for jobs right now. Retired pilots might want a job that does not take money from other pilot familys.

 

[filejw]

I don't suppose it would do us under-employed pilots on the way up any good to suggest that you buy a Bonanza and fly for fun on the weekends.
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=138621

You are assuming he doesn't need to make a living too.

 

[emspilot 01]

You are assuming he doesn't need to make a living too.

How do you know it's not a Famebait comment?? From the original poster on this form.

 

[gret]

You are assuming he doesn't need to make a living too.

Doubtful he meant any harm.

He did say..."Just want to keep involved..."

 

[ultrarunner]

Retired airline Captain-World wide experience. Looking for flying opportunities in Eastern Massachusetts area. Just want to keep involved-No reasonable offer refused.

BAS demo pilot based out of BDL? I'd imaging those jobs open up from time to time.

 

[jet2work]

You are assuming he doesn't need to make a living too.

This was probably just flamebait, so I will play along.

I'm assuming that if he retired from the airlines, that he is age 65 at least (otherwise, if he needed to make a living or wanted to stay involved he would not have retired early- make sense?).

If you reach age 65, retire from an airline, and do not have enough money to support yourself along with the generous contribution that you get from me each month (full SSI - which I will never see a penny of), then by all means, go buy a type rating (better yet, see if you can get WIA funds and let the taxpayer pick up the bill), and see if you can't undercut the daily rate of some struggling contract pilot. Or, offer to work for half the pay of some guy trying to support a family. That way, we can keep the vicious circle going.

http://www.xtranormal.com/xtraplayr/12366113/unemployed-airline-pilot

 

[con-pilot]

Civ/Mil: Civ
A/C Flown: A few
Ratings: Comm,CFI,II MEI
Total Time: 4000+

Are you asking for yourself? As the quoted information does not make sense for a,

Retired airline Captain-World wide experience

,if you are asking for yourself.

 

[G100driver]

Flame bait

 

[emspilot 01]

I would have to agree on Flamebait comment....

 

[flighttrainer]

Not flamebait, helping someone out, don't always judge a book by it's cover. Thanks for all the helpful replies.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Not flamebait, helping someone out, don't always judge a book by it's cover. Thanks for all the helpful replies.

If this is a legitimate post, and you are truly trying to help someone out..you need to listen to what others have already posted and tell your friend to hang it up. Call it a career. They have had their run. Time to step aside and let others try to provide for their family. I pledge to do the same when my time comes, and am saving $ accordingly.
Tell them Fly for fun perhaps..you can get one HECK of a deal on a used airplane in this market. That way they can 'stay involved' in aviation. Seriously, I have all the respect in the world for my elders; the wisdom they possess, etc. Say what you want about the baby boomers (i've heard the term "The Greediest Generation").. my respect endures-it's just the way I was raised. This is why it pained me to see this very "can't let it go" mentality at NJA before I was furloughed. I flew with MANY types that fit your friend's description -as old or older- and I was honestly embarrassed for them. They would forget to check in on almost every frequency handoff, make callouts that may have been SOP like 10yrs prior, but not current, and displayed airmanship that was borderline incompetent (in some cases grossly incompetent). Somehow FSI kept passing them on PCs..not sure why.

Try to help your friend along in the decision to avoid being one of those people and get another hobby and simply enjoy retirement. If your experience profile is accurate, I'd assume you're just trying to make it and provide a living in this industry for yourself like the rest of us.

My $.02

 

[Gulfstream 200]

If this is a legitimate post, and you are truly trying to help someone out..you need to listen to what others have already posted and tell your friend to hang it up. Call it a career. They have had their run. Time to step aside and let others try to provide for their family. I pledge to do the same when my time comes, and am saving $ accordingly.
Tell them Fly for fun perhaps..you can get one HECK of a deal on a used airplane in this market. That way they can 'stay involved' in aviation. Seriously, I have all the respect in the world for my elders; the wisdom they possess, etc. Say what you want about the baby boomers (i've heard the term "The Greediest Generation").. my respect endures-it's just the way I was raised. This is why it pained me to see this very "can't let it go" mentality at NJA before I was furloughed. I flew with MANY types that fit your friend's description -as old or older- and I was honestly embarrassed for them. They would forget to check in on almost every frequency handoff, make callouts that may have been SOP like 10yrs prior, but not current, and displayed airmanship that was borderline incompetent (in some cases grossly incompetent). Somehow FSI kept passing them on PCs..not sure why.

Try to help your friend along in the decision to avoid being one of those people and get another hobby and simply enjoy retirement. If your experience profile is accurate, I'd assume you're just trying to make it and provide a living in this industry for yourself like the rest of us.

My $.02

So YOU decide when someone should stop flying?

Believe me, I surely hope I am not banging around in a corporate jet when I am 66yrs old, but for some it might still be their dream. Not my business.

These guys dont take jobs from anyone. Its a free market. If one is long term unemployed or underemployed there is usually a reason....and its not old guys undercutting them.

We have all flown with worthless people, age does not matter. I for one fly with a 67yr old guy who is retiring soon....and I will have a hard time replacing him. I dont want the out of work lowball guy (they come young and old) I want a highly qualified guy, so I will most likely have to hire someone away from a decent job, and that requires a decent package. I can pretty much guarantee you I wont hire an unemployed guy, unless the timing was just perfect.

I would rather be in the "Greedy" Generation as opposed to the "whiny entitled" Generation.

 

[SansPlane]

So YOU decide when someone should stop flying?

I would rather be in the "Greedy" Generation as opposed to the "whiny entitled" Generation.

Flamebait or not, +1.