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Vortilon

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September 3, 2004

Comair Team,

After nearly eight months of relative status quo as the airline industry flounders with costs too high and revenues too low, the last months of 2004 may finally yield critical events to reverse the major financial losses and lead our industry into recovery.

United received another extension to put together their bankruptcy recovery plan, although many experts believe this may be their last chance. US Airways' ownership has announced liquidation is a real possibility unless cost restructuring efforts achieve targets designed to make it a viable entity. Next week, our parent and partner Delta Air Lines will announce elements of its strategic review, which will outline the steps it will take to survive. The first part of its transformation was introduced recently with the rollout of the SimpliFares program for the Cincinnati market. This program underscores the strategic importance of this market and hub, where we are a key element of Delta's operation.

As Delta works to achieve viability without Chapter 11 protection, it is aggressively pursuing a restructuring plan based on a customer-service focused culture, excellent operational reliability and efficient cost structure. We are focused on the same things, with ongoing initiatives in all these areas. For customers, we are continuing to standardize procedures for Delta brand consistency, enhancing training for all customer contact groups and deploying new technology in our field locations. Operationally, we are addressing the increased Northeast operations with efforts such as establishing minimum ground times, minimizing crew swaps in that region, developing better turn time measures focused on recoverability and reviewing maintenance and spare aircraft compliments. And as for cost efficiency, we have reduced our cost structure by nearly $200 million since 2001 through a combination of initiatives that touch every area of our business and the growth driven by the last 70 aircraft deliveries.

Delta's leadership has said they must come out of the transformation process positioned for long-term viability that allows them to grow their company. All of you are probably familiar with my belief that businesses must grow or they will surely begin to shrink. I firmly believe that our company must again position itself for growth, even though that may require unpopular but necessary steps to address cost disadvantages that prohibit us from being competitive. Although many areas of our company have made a tremendously positive impact to our cost structure, it is still not enough to ensure we can be competitive in the marketplace. As a company, we can not ask efficient, cost competitive areas of our operation to subsidize non-competitive areas and expect long-term success. We should expect that as Delta makes critical decisions to survive, their leadership will look closely at the costs of their regional feed and we will be impacted by Delta's transformation. The size and scope of that impact will be determined by many of the decisions we make today.

As we work through the changes that the coming months will certainly bring, it is worth noting that

Comair people have a well-deserved reputation as resilient and capable aviation professionals who weather challenges well - whatever they may be. We have all worked together to build that reputation. We must now work together to keep it.

Thank you for your hard work and dedication in continuing to take care of our customers, our airline and each other.

-Randy


4th paragraph seemed to spell it out to me. Good luck guys.
 
"And as for cost efficiency, we have reduced our cost structure by nearly $200 million since 2001 through a combination of initiatives that touch every area of our business and the growth driven by the last 70 aircraft deliveries."

Well, Randy, if you hadn't spent $700 million to save $100 million on the strike you would be way ahead now wouldn't you? .

Let's say that a typical FO at CMR makes $38 @ hour (3rd year FO) and a typical Capt makes $75 @ hour (8 year Capt). Even if we agreed to a 20% pay cut the savings to the company would only be about $21 million per year. That's $21 million in savings on approximately $1.2 BILLION in gross revenue. Roughly 1.75% of the bottom line.

There's no way we would even consider that big of a pay cut and anything much less would be insignificant savings in the big scheme of things. For example, if you cut $2 per hour from the FOs and $5 from the Capts you only end up saving about $6.5 million per year. Cut the CMR execs bonuses and you can save more than that.

I just don't see the CMR pilots agreeing to a pay cut with the way things are. If something drastically changes, who knows, but for now, no way.
 
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Vortilon said:
September 3, 2004

As a company, we can not ask efficient, cost competitive areas of our operation to subsidize non-competitive areas and expect long-term success.


Anybody need an interpreter?
 
As a comparison, even if we were to agree to CHQ or, God forbid, Mesa wages we would only save the company about $10 million or $16 million respectively. That's chump change in the big picture. No thanks, we'll just remain 'non-competitive'.
 
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DDays,

I think what Rademacher is saying is that if Delta restructures itself to an efficient, lower-cost organization than it doesn't make sense to continue the status quo at CMR. I agree with him in principle except that the savings he'd get from paycuts would be minimal. Its like I said the first time they asked for cuts at CMR....what exactly is a year 1 FO going to contribute? $9/hr? Leave the APU running by accident and you just burned that up....

But then again, when it comes to competing for contracts down the road it may come down to the nearest dollar...who knows. Its just the unfortunate slide we're all dealing with in this business. Every segment of this business, majors, "regionals", LCCs are all going to have pressure put on them to lower costs.

I just wonder how far this will trickle down within the company? Will they pursue this with the DCI Acadamy and AirElite?

When I was growing up I never understood that Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times." Now I get it.
 
WO's

I find it intresting that a week prior to some sort of DAL announcement that both WO's are prepping their employees. ASA has been hiting the pilot group in the silly ops spec classes and now there are flyers up for informative meetings for station personnel in the ATL hub. Now you got Randy sending a letter out to this employees.........Yes yes these are surely interesting times!!

Cheers
 
First, good luck my Comair Brothers.

I thought that as a wholly owned though, that if Delta files CH 11, then wage cuts will be imposed across the board by the bankruptcy judge. I believe this is how the US Air wholly owned company's were affected. You may not have a choice, is what I am getting at.

I hope I am wrong though, because if given the choice, I'm sure you guys will stand up and shove the proposed consessions up managements butt.

Good luck to us all. The race to the bottom continues... Or does it?
 
Don't expect DAL or Comair management to leave money on the table - if they can get $10 million in savings then they will do it. It's all cumulative in their minds.
 
Get ready,here it comes!! Just in case anyone forgot what Comair stands for, I'll post it.

Come
On
My
A$$
Is
Ready

Sorry, couldnt resist.
 
Caveman Let's say that a typical FO at CMR makes $38 @ hour (3rd year FO) and a typical Capt makes $75 @ hour (8 year Capt). Even if we agreed to a 20% pay cut the savings to the company would only be about $21 million per year. [/QUOTE said:
Caveman, you might be right if pilot pay is all they'll come after. Expect them to come after your work rules, retirement contributions, scheduling and to increase your healthcare premiums while at the same time increasing your out of pocket co-pay. It will be an all encompassing assault on your contract. If the pilot contract is worth $300M today, they'll at least wrestle $100M out of it. You take a $100M concession from the CMR pilots, maybe another $50M from the other CMR employees and that's $150M/year savings. If they get the same from ASA, then your looking at $300M/year in savings. They'll then try to make it a 6 year concession which will make it $1.6B in savings. If they can't get it from you at the bargaining table, they'll start shifting assets to carriers that will provide the lift for less. Then the backwards seat progression and furloughs begin, if that still doesn't work and DAL ends up in BK, expect the company to ask the good judge for a Mesa or Eagle contract, or perhaps mid Atlantic rates and work rules.

It isn't fair, but fair has nothing to do with it. What the company can't get from you at the negotiating table, they'll get from you in court if it comes to that and with this Republican Administration four square behind management and it's efforts to blast this profession back to the stone age, don't expect much help from the administration or the judges they appoint.

I hope it doesn't come to that for any of us, but I doubt any of us will escape this period unscathed. Good luck.
 
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FDJ2 said:
and with this Republican Administration four square behind management and it's efforts to blast this profession back to the stone age, don't expect much help from the administration or the judges they appoint.
And the past 2 Democratic administrations we SOOOOOO good for this industry...Jeeeeeez....

atrdriver
 
It may be time for every one to get their reumes out. I will not give one red dime. This is a ploy by Delta. Our CASM are already lower than SKY, and they fly 70 seat aircraft for less than we fly 50 seaters. And on top of that, we give them a check every quarter, the profits are theirs. Sky and chawaw don't do that.


Since our cost are the lowest, we should all collectively tell them where to go.

I have been at Comair 10 years and I will go some where else if I have to.

And by the way, this ALL can be traced back to the spineless pilots of mesa, chawawa, and skywest. Thanx guys and gals. What a bunch of losers.

That's all I got to say about thAT.

They can kiss my arse.
 
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Republicans or Democrats have nothing to do with the current situation. CMR has been undercut by other RJ operators. CMR's pay/benies is above the majority of its competitors. This will have to come down. Maybe below Mesa....that would be competitive. Sad but true.

As far as DAL goes, I believe they overpurchased RJ's for CMR/ASA. W/ one of the highest CASM's in an oversaturated industry, I believe the 50 seater won't survive in its current quantity. There is a market for these aircraft but it's much smaller that currently utilized. I'm betting that many contracted RJ Providers will lose their lucrative Pay Per Departure fees as well. This will send a mad scramble to lower costs even further. Several RJ operators will find themselves in a ACA/FLYI situation. DAL may even sell CMR and or ASA and replace the lift w/ other providers. Either way, I believe the current CMR contract will be viewed as the highest pay ever given to RJ pilots. Just like the old 777 and 747 pay at UAL. Sorry to be a downer, but I think it's true.
 
"they'll get from you in court if it comes to that and with this Republican Administration four square behind management and it's efforts to blast this profession back to the stone age, don't expect much help from the administration or the judges they appoint."

I truely hope you don't think that the judicial system of today is conservative?..?.. Pick up a newspaper, G.W. Bush has not had a lot of luck getting his nominations confirmed thanks to liberal roadblocking. Furthermore, have you slept though some of the decisions coming out of the courts in San Fran. and in Mass., or anywhere else for that matter? I sure haven't heard of too many big court decisions going the way of big business lately (i.e. Wal-Mart class action...) DEFINATELY not conservative benches. If you want to blame any politicians for the mess this industry is in, blame Bill Clinton for not taking care of Osama Bin Laden on his watch... Not that I entirely blame 9-11, because the ingredients for this mess were being mixed prior to that event. 9-11 just put the heat under it.
 
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AFELLOWAVIATOR said:
It may be time for every one to get their reumes out. I will not give one red dime. This is a ploy by Delta. Our CASM are already lower than SKY, and they fly 70 seat aircraft for less than we fly 50 seaters. And on top of that, we give them a check every quarter, the profits are theirs. Sky and chawaw don't do that.


Since our cost are the lowest, we should all collectively tell them where to go.

I have been at Comair 10 years and I will go some where else if I have to.

And by the way, this ALL can be traced back to the spineless pilots of mesa, chawawa, and skywest. Thanx guys and gals. What a bunch of losers.

That's all I got to say about thAT.

They can kiss my arse.
Aah, the 'ol standby... Blame CHQ and MESA. :rolleyes:

EVERYTHING'S their fault...

"They're spineless, cowards, wimps, gutless wonders, etc... etc..." Hate to tell the crowd this, but this line is starting to sound like a broken record... Come up with something new. Maybe try blaming management...:confused:
 
AFELLOWAVIATOR said:
And by the way, this ALL can be traced back to the spineless pilots of mesa, chawawa, and skywest. Thanx guys and gals. What a bunch of losers.

That's all I got to say about thAT.

They can kiss my arse.
The sad but true reality of the situation is that this is a classic example of free market capitalism in an unregulated supply vs. demand world. Comair struck and negotiated its contract at the height of late 90's boom economy. Delta learned from it. The sent their "regional" feeds into each others home hubs to induce competition and never allow a single feed to shut down operations at a hub.

Now here comes 9/11, the bubble bursts, specifically for aviation. Regional feeds no longer have a leg to stand on dictating any kind of terms to the major partners.

DCI companies must competitively bid or get shut out of the new flying being awarded.

I'm sure it is nice to look at yourself and your Comair wings in the mirror and think your $hit doesn't stink, but in the next round DAL will come to you looking for concessions, and unfortunately, this is not the same economic environment you guys were in last time.

The economy dictates the options you will have available to you when you sit across the table from DAL. Do you honestly think you are above anyone else trying to make a paycheck when you have majors dropping like flies and thousands of pilots out of work? This is the new reality of increased efficiency/lower costs business everywhere these days. This, combined with the implied support of a very anti-union administration (see how the TSA bill was hung up for weeks regarding their ability to unionize), makes me believe the next few rounds of contract negotiations will be far more painful for all involved...
 
Rogue5 said:
DCI companies must competitively bid or get shut out of the new flying being awarded.
Comair has the lowest CASM in the DCI family.

Source: Aviation Week & CHQ cert of public necessity request.

Just a little something many people tend to forget. This even pre-empts the thin argument that Delta subsidizes DCI flying, since these numbers compare airlines within DCI.
 
Perhaps it's time for DAL to dump the DCI family. Spin it off and contract out to the lowest bidder. Isn't that already happening at MCO w/ CHQ? It's just business.
 

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