Clearing turns in the sim.

[bri5150]

Are they a waste of time and money, or are they a necessary part of training to ensure safe operations?

 

[Baronman]

Are they a waste of time and money, or are they a necessary part of training to ensure safe operations?

Safe operation? What the fukc are you going to hit?

There a waste of time and money and frankly they should look for a green alternative ie straight into the maneuver.

 

[kingairyahoo]

dunno...never done em in the box, but i have only been about two dozen times to any one of four sim places; delaware, wichita, long beach and dallas

 

[GogglesPisano]

You've got to be kidding. What operator requires this? Do they do mag checks, too?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

are they a waste of time and money, or are they a necessary part of training to ensure safe operations?

lmao :laugh:

 

[BUDDHA145]

Embry Riddle!!! Ha just kid

 

[altimaklr]

You are on an IFR plan with TCAS. What are you looking for, bird flocks?

 

[bri5150]

How about a blue trenchcoat over a black uniform? Does that look sharp?

 

[Freebrd]

Haven't seen one nor done clearing turns in the sim, EVER

 

[higney85]

I've done some "steep turns" to start off loft/PC events to get the "sim feel" before having to do maneuvers and stuff, both nothing ever labeled as "clearing turns".

 

[bri5150]

Maybe it's just one instructor then.

 

[Mookie]

Are they a waste of time and money, or are they a necessary part of training to ensure safe operations?

One Ping Only....

Mookie

 

[urflyingme?!]

Maybe the instructor wanted to prove you were the dumbest student he ever had.

 

[AMT_842]

We never do them in the sim.

 

[WWEfan]

I busted my last AQP ride because I was trying to save time and did my clearing turns during the RNAV departure. Beware!!! Don't make the same mistake I did!!!

 

[Freebrd]

I busted my last AQP ride because I was trying to save time and did my clearing turns during the RNAV departure. Beware!!! Don't make the same mistake I did!!!

That's bs man, aren't airports where planes converge and possibly collide? If anywhere that a where clearing turns should be done, especially on those rnav deps you mentioned. Well played, it's the IP who should've been busted!

 

[CX880]

I think he's joking.

 

[Freebrd]

I think I am too....

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I busted my last AQP ride because I was trying to save time and did my clearing turns during the RNAV departure. Beware!!! Don't make the same mistake I did!!!

Is that like doing clearing turns on the arrival into DFW??

 

[CA1900]

I fly behind a Primus 1000. It does clearing turns automatically.

 

[xkuzme1]

I fly behind a Primus 1000. It does clearing turns automatically.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

that!

 

[urflyingme?!]

Conn sonar crazy ivan!

 

[BoilerUP]

If the APD/TCE wants clearing turns, you do clearing turns.

Play the game, cooperate to graduate, etc....

 

[doh]

I've had a couple of guys who want to you to ask if they want clearing turns. It's bush league because you can't fly vfr in the real world, but cooperate and graduate...and roll your eyes and think: what a dick...

 

[MoreDaysOff]

Why do you need to fly VFR "in the real world" to do clearing turns? Is there no chance of a mid air after filing IFR?

 

[airplane wizard]

Doesn't the traffic show on the tcas screen?

 

[mkingmei]

VFR or IFR you should always look out the window before you turn(in the real world). SIM world, just do as your asked and B!tch about the instructor at the bar.

 

[xjgearbtch]

VFR or IFR you should always look out the window before you turn(in the real world). SIM world, just do as your asked and B!tch about the instructor at the bar.

Screw that, show me where in the FOTM, clearing turns are required in the damn sim. Lol what a waste of time. PS We used to do it back in the day.

 

[bri5150]

Screw that, show me where in the FOTM, clearing turns are required in the damn sim. Lol what a waste of time. PS We used to do it back in the day.

Yeah, before common sense came into the training program?

 

[Sig]

This entire thread comes down to the day I was checking out a Taylorcraft on the ramp with a few other CFIs back in the 13th century. She looked cool as hell, with a venturi on the left side for gyro vacuum.

I was in the glowing arms of simple pilot love with a machine, when one of the more "clever" guys piped up. "This is a POS. If you get caught in icing conditions, you lose EVERYTHING!! Dangerous plane."

After sipping my coffee, I looked at him and said, "If you're flying this thing IMC, you're a bigger turd than even I imagined. Besides, it be a taildragger. You're unqualified to even crash it, thank god."

Where, oh where did common sense go?