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Now you're thinking...do some 135 operators include a box on their flight logs for entering data regarding getting a deice? We're supposed to write the data down, but there is no block on the flight log for doing so.Publishers said:Wonder if they were deiced anywhere, whether they had landed for a pickup or had been there overnight?
NBC Sports Chief Survives Plane Crashcaseyd said:I'm fuzzy here. How do they know it's Teddy's seat that's missing?
Yes, but what's the point here?? The aicraft in Birmingham had enough ice/frost on the aircraft to cause any high performance airfoil problems. Your inference is that it's a Challenger problem.Ace-of-the-Base said:Good question. Wasn't that Challenger accident on takeoff out of England due to frost / ice on the wing?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/source/dft_avsafety_source_030576.docAce-of-the-Base said:Good question. Wasn't that Challenger accident on takeoff out of England due to frost / ice on the wing?
Now, I have seen the METARs and I know it might not seem as though it should have been all that bad but that METAR comes from an ASOS and I have more than a few reasons not to fully trust what these machines report as being acceptable - seen 'em wrong WAY too many times. When eyewitness laypeople call it a whiteout it's NOT good, regardless of what the METAR indicates. The simple fact is that poor visbility is not a plus when other factors - like slippery runway, snow contaminiation that makes the centerline invisible, or icing, etc. - start getting involved.NY Post said:Doug Percival, whose office is nearby, was one of the first on the scene.
"I heard something that sounded like a big sonic boom. I looked out the window, and I saw a big ball of flames coming off the runway," he said.
Percival and Distel said they saw Ebersol and Charles walking around outside the wreckage, both in shock.
Charles was "screaming that his brother was in the plane. He was crying and screaming. He said that his brother was only 14," Percival said. Distel said Charles was yelling, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!"
The impact knocked the shoes off Ebersol and his son. Both were standing in their socks.
The crash occurred during a snowstorm that Percival described as a "whiteout."