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Citation vs Bird

English

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I thought birds only hit Citations from behind?

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What are those four plastic tube like structures in the space behind the leading edge in picture 2?
Seems like that is space where bleed air flows, I was surprised to see anything in a heated space like that.
 

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English said:
I thought birds only hit Citations from behind?

:)
You're confusing a Citation with an ATR. The reason that the ATR's have the pointy rear ends is for aerodynamics. Did you know that ATR's don't have airspeed indicators? Its true, they have calendars instead.
 

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GravityHater said:
What are those four plastic tube like structures in the space behind the leading edge in picture 2?
Seems like that is space where bleed air flows, I was surprised to see anything in a heated space like that.
That's not a heated space on that Citation. This one is an S-II with the TKS anti-ice system.

And none of the Citations ever used wing bleed until the V and that was only inboard. They still have boots outboard.

CJ's I believe use bleed.
 

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GravityHater said:
What are those four plastic tube like structures in the space behind the leading edge in picture 2?
Seems like that is space where bleed air flows, I was surprised to see anything in a heated space like that.
The wing on the Citation you are looking at is not heated, most of those types of Slow-Tations use rubber de-ice boots but there is an option to install a TKS ' weeping ' wing, glycol anti-ice system.

What you are looking at in the picture is the glycol ' feed ' line to the missing TKS panel, missing as a result of the bird impact.

RS6 only beat me in his reply to this thread because even though we apparently were typing at the same time, mine was the more technically precise answer. ( grins )
 

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RS6 said:
That's not a heated space on that Citation. This one is an S-II with the TKS anti-ice system.

And none of the Citations ever used wing bleed until the V and that was only inboard. They still have boots outboard.

CJ's I believe use bleed.
I thought the inboard on the V was electrically heated, not bleed? Am I wrong?
 

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The V uses bleed for the inboard leading edge. Older 500's, I's, II's are electrical.
 

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That's an S11 Citation= TKS, not hot wings.
 

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RS6 said:
And none of the Citations ever used wing bleed until the V and that was only inboard. They still have boots outboard.

CJ's I believe use bleed.

Excels also use bleed air on the entire wing.


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If the pictures are correct, it is (was) a turkey vulture. Nasty little buggers too. Wingspan better than six feet on adults, stands 2-3' tall. I've only taken out a duck and that felt like a pole. Hate to feel a bird of that size!

Down in Orlando they had a CII that hit one or more deer on landing. Now you're talkin' damage!
 

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The V and Ultra uses bleed air in the inboard and boots on the outboard
The Encore uses bleed air through the whole wing and boots in the tail.
The XL and XLS are the same as the encore

I hit a goose coming out on Lincoln, Nebraska. Went directly in the engine and shut it down. Just a fine mist around the fuselage but didn't touch anything. Pretty cool.

We had a crew hit a bird on the rudder. The bird hit was so hard it bent the rudder spar and had to be replaced. One of our fine pilots photoshoped the picture so it looked like the bird hit it from the rear. Pretty funny.
 
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