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By the way all pilots that fly in this industry small planes ( like me ) , large planes-usually stick together. You on the otherhand who probally flies a 747-400 in the M.S. Flight Sim, well you speak for yourself-Jerk, and as for Dan Smithmy opinion stands.
 
Opinions

You know what they say about opinions....

When you come into my 7-11 I will offer you a "jerk" chicken sandwich...you seem to like that word. Your favorite descriptor.

Well, I wish you many luck on your endeavours...I wish you peace, love and harmony. I would also suggest cleaning your Chakra. And remember, all that "jerking" can make you go blind.

Turbinehead.
 
Re: D Smith at Citation Shares

Capt RJ said:
This guy is an unbelievable pompus a*s jerk. After talking with him in a "phone interview", I wouldn't work for this jerk or anyone like him. It seems to me he is an arm chair pilot with too much time on his hands. No I wasn't offered an interview, but thats not the first time, although it is a first for speaking out against someone like this. I have no problem not getting a job-I do have a problem with a jerk that tries to intimidate you with his superior "aviation knowlege"- Be careful with this guy in the initial phone interview it starts out informational " So tell me your background" to oh I see you flew an Navajo years ago describe the electrical system- what do you mean you don't know you flew the plane 50hours as SIC 7 years ago. JERK


GOOD WE DONT WANT SOMEBODY LIKE YOU HERE ANYWAY. i had a phone interview with dan a couple of days ago, yes he is short and a little intimidating but do you think it might be a test to see how you handle yourself. when i went up for the interview dan was one of the friendliest people i met up there. so go to netjets and stay away.
by the way i am a dash capt and all of your rambling about airline pilots and checkrides is the reason i am getting out of the airlines and into the fractionals. too many pompous i*iots like your self who think that a uniform and four stripes makes them hot s**t
 
Bravodude,
Sorry to hear you put down your fellow airline pilots. Have you ever flown 91 or 135? Good luck the grass is always greener on the other side? When you're loading the ice bin in your Bravo,your captain yelling at you because you don't have enough Coke instead of Pepsi onboard-you'll say to your-self, yep I sure hated that airline job.And yes I have flown 135 and 91, I believe I would prefer Net Jets
 
capt crj

you know i dont normally put down anybody. but first of all i see you are on the crj and the j41 which would mean that you prob work for aca. if that is the case then you should know better then anybody that the people incharge of pilot recruitment sometimes are not the friendliest people just to see how you react. my only beef with you was that you are saying s*it about a guy you dont know at all and how most likely was an a$$ to you just like to me to see how you react. second i dont understand what you are trying to say here. you tell me the grass is allways............and when you are dumping ice etc,etc,etc and then you turn around and say you want to be at execjet and you even tried citation shares. the thing about regionals is that you are treated like dirt the svhedulles suck i might be home 8 nights a month if i am lucky and i work for the worst company possible so anything is better.
 
Hey Bravodude Goodluck at Citation Shares, like I said before its probally a great company-I just don't agree with Dans pre-interview gig. Sorry if I offended you. Good luck
 
Just to clarify Net Jets is union no kiss a** to any one to move in the senority list-more like 121 thats just me, not knocking you. Net Jets also operates under 135 not 91. Sorry again if I offended you


Pete
 
no offence taken however so does citation shares as far as 135 at least close to it im sure when needed netjets will op p91 as far as union that is why i went to shares. i didnt even try netjets because of just that. i see what unions have done to the airlines (usair, united) and i am glad to be at a company that is non union and able to grow.
 
also you might bash me but thats ok. i interviewd at aca a long time ago the people that i had to interview with were the biggest pompous a$$h0le* that i ever met.
 
i respectfully disagree. when some one buys a share of an airplane they end up paying as much as 4-7 million dollars. these people can sometimes be extremly abusive. during interviews people want to see how you will react. are you going to go tell an owner to f**k off because he is an a$$. as for airline interviews the same thing goes what if the guy in the left seat is a total j*rk are you going to clam up and totally destroy crm. as for cs the interview was the most lade back get to know you type that i have ever been at. the people at cs are the nicest most proffesional people i have ever met they just try and weed the people they dont want during the phone interview.
 
Capt RJ -

As a corporate pilot who went to AA, got furloughed and is now back in corporate, I believe that I'm qualified to say that your comments are full of sh*t.

You touch on the stereotypes of corporate pilots of humping bags and dealing with obnoxious rich passengers, all while flying into unsafe airports with no SOP. These are the normal comments I hear from the naive 121 guys that think they are somehow more professional than the rest. I'm here to say that you should reevaluate your standing on the totem pole.

Have you ever flown your RJ around the world? RVSM'd over the Atlantic or Pacific? Flown a QFE approach in Russia? Circled at night into an Egyptian airport? Or ever make $10K a month??

Don't jump on these CS guys with that attitude. You are merely a commuter pilot, my friend. In fact, I believe that the CS guys would do better as my FO than you because they have a POSITIVE attitude about what they are doing.

Yes, I left corporate because at the time that was the best game in town in terms of compensation. I did not go for the almighty 121 moniker. Frankly, the flying is sterile and boring. Now the compensation is gone for good while the corporate pay is WAY up (maybe not in the fracs - sorry for that). No sour grapes here from my furlough.

The guys that are F-ed right now are the commuter guys like yourself because you are stuck making no $$$ with no movement at the majors. Yes, SW, JB, Fedex and UPS are hiring, but go grab a number and wait like every other commuter dude for your interview in 2006.

In the meanwhile, don't trash my end of aviation. Show some respect to your fellow avaitors.
 
CORPGUY

WELL DON'T WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT OURSELF AND OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. YES I HAVE FLOWN CORPORATE AND 135, SO I CAN SAY MY FULL OF SH*T COMMENTS ARE JUST MY OPINION. I DON'T ASK FOR YOU OR ANYONE ELSE TO AGREE WITH THEM. OH BY THE WAY MR. FEEL GOOD I HAVE A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN YOU MIGHT THINK-MR CORPGUY. I ALSO HAVE MILITARY FLIGHT EXPERIENCE IN THE U.S.M.C., AS WELL AS MY CAREER AS A 121 CAPT. YOU CAN TRY AND DEGRADE REGIONAL PILOTS, BUT YOU LOOK LIKE AN AS* FOR DOING IT. OH AND IF YOU EVER MAKE IT BACK TO AA SAY HELLO TO YOUR CH. PILOT-BOB K. AS A FORMER NAVAL AVIATOR HE WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND TELL YOU THAT MY EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING IS UNEQUALED, AND MOST CERTAINLY BY YOURS- I'LL GUARANTEE.
 
How is this related to CS interview? Really, things are getting a bit out of hand. It is tough all over and many, many pilots are out of work - let's try to be a bit more sympathetic...

For those who have been hired by CS recently, which aircraft have you started on - CJ1, Bravo, Excel? How do you like it vs. what you flew previously? Can/will CS consider larger airplanes like the Citation X or the Sovereign (beyond the CJ3)?


Thanks
 
Anyone know how long the wait might be before a phone interview for someone who does not have an inside contact or if it will come at all?
 
Heavy Set said:
For those who have been hired by CS recently, which aircraft have you started on - CJ1, Bravo, Excel? How do you like it vs. what you flew previously? Can/will CS consider larger airplanes like the Citation X or the Sovereign (beyond the CJ3)?


Thanks


I don't fly for CS. But its my understanding that since Cessna is a large owner in CS along with TAG, they are inclined not to upset NETJETS founder and CEO, Richard Santulli, by competing directly with NetJets larger Cessna fleets. This is common knowledge among anyone familiar with the relationship between Cessna and NetJets.

I would imagine that cessna would lose more through loss in sales to NetJets than anything it could possibly hope to make if it were to bring anything to CS greater than the CJ3.

If Cessna, through CS, does in fact attempt direct competetion with NetJets by bringing in larger aircraft like X's, you will probably see the same dire results that Raytheon experienced.

Raytheon had a good thing going with Hundreds of million$ in sales from NetJets with thier Hawker Horizons and 800xp's. Then things got sour when they started Travel Air. However the lesson learned is that they probably have seen there last aircraft sale to the worlds 4th largest airline, until they decide if whether they want to be in the business of selling aircraft to NetJets or comptete directly with them as investor, read OWNER of the second largest competitor, flight options. Now Raytheon, the jet manufacture, is the largest owner of a company that must peddle the new and used jets of other manufacturers that not only directly competes with but reduces its own new aircraft sales. Perhaps now a tragic business move.

NetJets is not only the largest purchaser of business jets in the world, but the largest purchaser of jets the world has ever seen...period. That should get the attention of any aircraft manufacturer.
 
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i was hired about a month ago. i am a former regional turbo prop capt. i was hired into the excel. the airplane you get is based on what they need at the time. as far as bigger airplanes i dont know i asked that question in the interview and was told that since they are owned by tag and cessna you can pretty much bet your dollar that 1 it will be a cessna product and 2 it will be what ever airplane cessna wants it to be. as far how long the wait is for the phone interview i really dont know my experience was probably not ordinary as the whole process was done in a matter of days. but i do know that it is not just the people who are recomended although if you are recomended it is a huge huge advantage. my sim partner was not recomended.
 
"If Cessna, through CS, does in fact attempt direct competetion with NetJets by bringing in larger aircraft like Excels and X's, you would probably see the same result that Raytheon experienced"

uh we already have excels dude
 

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