Citation Bravo Question

[C425Driver]

Is the Citation Bravo certified for single pilot ops? I've heard conflicting answers to this question and was hoping that someone here with Bravo time could shed some light on the subject.

Thanks,

C425Driver

 

[Swamp Fox]

No, but it doesn't really matter because...

The Bravo (as well as most other CE-550s and all CE-560s) are certified for two pilots, but may be flown single pilot under an exemption from the regulations. You will have to undergo specific additional training and checks to qualify (both initially and on a recurrent basis). Then you will have to get the insurance company to go along. Kind of a hassle, but can be done.

 

[FlierDude]

Yes, it's possible. If it's your first type, you usually get the 'SIC required' restriction, then get it lifted in 50-100 hours. Call FSI, Simuflite or Simcom for even greater detail.

 

[Flyerjosh]

There is no SIC required restriction on any CE500 type because the plane was only certified for two pilot ops. You can get an addition to your type that would say CE5x0-Single Pilot (It's for a particular model IIRC). To do so, you need to do SP training in the sim, do a SP checkride in the sim, then do a
single pilot 15% ride in the actual aircraft with a DE or fed.

To my knowledge, you can get single typed in any of the 500 series aircraft (one of the pilots on the field here is SP typed on the Encore/560)

 

[SCT]

Except the 560XL/ XLS.

 

[C425Driver]

Thanks for the info.

C425Driver

 

[Turbosnake03]

ok what if you are flying a CE550 as a co-pilot with a PIC that has a single pilot type are you aloud to log it as SIC time??? even though the pic holds a single pilot type??

Thanks

 

[CIIBK]

The C550,S550,560, Ultra, Bravo, and Encore can be flown single pilot with a single pilot exemption as there is no such thing as a "single pilot type" in this series. The older 500's can be flown SP under a different exemption. There is however a "single pilot type" in the 525 CJ series. A C550 remains a two pilot airplane even when flown by someone who has a single pilot exemption.

 

[Nick5600]

Actually if you fly a citation 501, 551, it is certified under part 23, not 25 so it can be flown single pilot. Also the 500 type will allow you to fly a 501/551 with out additional training. However if you fly a 500 550 560 they are certified under part 25 and 2 pilots are required. However if you get a single pilot waiver "pain in the a@@ to get" you may fly single pilot in 500/550/560.

 

[501261]

There is no SIC required restriction on any CE500 type because the plane was only certified for two pilot ops. You can get an addition to your type that would say CE5x0-Single Pilot (It's for a particular model IIRC). To do so, you need to do SP training in the sim, do a SP checkride in the sim, then do a
single pilot 15% ride in the actual aircraft with a DE or fed.

To my knowledge, you can get single typed in any of the 500 series aircraft (one of the pilots on the field here is SP typed on the Encore/560)

Actually you can get a C500 SIC required type rating. If you take your initial C500 type ride in a C501 or C551 and use a SIC for the type ride your certificate will show C500 SIC required.

Also, there is no Single Pilot Type rating for the C500. There is on the C525 (C525S). If you are flying a two Pilot Citation (C500, C550, Bravo, SII, 560, V, Ultra, Encore) Single Pilot you need to have FAA Waiver 4050(L). It is just a letter, nothing that goes on your license. The waiver is only good for a year, and is specific to that model Citation (i.e., the waiver is only valid for an Encore, not the Ultra-yes the waiver does differentiate between different models of Citations).

Oh and it's not a 15% ride in the airplane. The initial Waiver 4050 ride has to be done completely in the airplane.