Cirrus crash in Charlotte

[nev-air mind]

Does anyone have more info. on this. A cirrus coming from atl. crashed at the charlotte airport this morning.

 

[Propnose]

Cirrus Crash in CLT

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/16137398.htm

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N665CD

It happened lastnight.

Thoughts go out to his family. Rest In Peace.

 

[SCT]

Dang, that's in my neighborhood. I'm glad I'm out of town.

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

I use to fly for that company. Anyone know the pilots name?

 

[G-force]

Cirrus accident

Does anyone have more info. on this. A cirrus coming from atl. crashed at the charlotte airport this morning.

Is this aircraft a SATSAIR Cirrus on a PT.135 charter??????

 

[Lazy8]

Quite a violent Cirrus ending. RIP

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

Not a SATS aircraft.

 

[JimNtexas]

Airshares Elite was the owner according to aero-news.net.

 

[On Your Six]

Terrible - RIP. There seem to be a lot of Cirrus crashes lately - and I know that Cirrus aircraft numbers continue to increase (perhaps the proportion of crashes to total aircraft is not as alarming?).

Any speculation as to why so many Cirrus crashes have happened? Don't think it is a design flaw - pilot error or poor pilot judegement I would suspect. Do you think the pilots are not trained well enough (low timers flying advanced aircraft) or that they are "pushing the envelope" with a false sense of security with the parachute? I know that aircraft crash every day somewhere in the US and we don't necessarily hear about the Cessnas and Pipers that go down. Such a nice aircraft...

 

[Mooneymite]

The Cirrus is a high performance single that is slippery and accelerates quickly. When flown properly it is a very safe plane.

Unfortunately, Cirrus' marketing folks have made a BIG mistake by selling it as an airplane that is "safe for anyone to fly"...It is not.

It requires experience and good training, just like any similar aircraft. Having the money to plunk down on a $450,000 toy does not mean one is sharp enough to fly it.

The parachute (BRS) is a great safety feature, but it can encourage some folks to take chances "because they can always bail out", that they wouldn't take without it. Icing? No problem. If we get iced up, we'll pull the chute. VMC into IMC? No problem, we can pop the chute. Marginal approach into a marginal airport? No problem, we have the BRS.

Word on the street is that initial insurance premiums are running $1500/mo. After building sufficient time, they drop "down to" $13,000/yr. That should tell you something about what the insurance companies think about Cirrus.

Great airplane...great opportunity for fools to fly where angels fear to go.

 

[eagle06]

I agree with the above posts. i currently teach in a SR20. by far the most difficult airplane that ive taught in. The airplane is pretty unforgiving to mistakes largely due to the very clean airframe. Its an airplane where if you are competant and understand the systems it is extremely safe. The automation and integration of GPS ect. make it by far the easiest airplane i have ever flown IFR in. That being said, if you dont use the systems correctly you will be in deep sh1t real quick. Rich guys that have 80 hours and just got their private do not belong in this aircraft in my opinion. They doent have the maturity level (flying wise) to safely handle this aircraft. As for icing. There have been several fatal accidents with this aircraft in ice. I dont know how it performs in ice as i take that accient trend as a clue. The rest of the Cirrus owners should as well. The TKS that is marketed as a safety option has some serious limitations aside from not being certified. It can take very long (30-45 minutes i was told) for the TKS solution to cover all the leading edges. In addition, if not used regularly the sponge like material inside the leading edges drys up rendering it useless. Long story short the airplane should go nowhere near ice. Im a Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot with a couple hundered hourse between both models. if you have questions let me know.

 

[Publishers]

I agree with the above, plus there is so much information from the new avionics, it is easy to get distracted and to single focus rather than keep up a good scan. One can easily get caught up in fooling around with the avionics and not flying the plane.
A second aspect, is that people buy these things to go places. In the -22, you have a high performance plane clipping along being flown by pilots with a 172 mind speed, into weather and environments that tax someone with more time and skill. In one Ft. Lauderdale crash, the guy took of in weather I would not have been really excited about going into in a jet or turbo prop.

 

[nev-air mind]

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/breaking_news/16146598.htm

Pilot's name was George Vrana. God bless his family and friends.

 

[Flywrite]

Is this aircraft a SATSAIR Cirrus on a PT.135 charter??????

Is this poster a sad little person who cant let go of his experience at SATSair?

G-Force, anyone familiar with your posts about SATSair can problably figure out that you were hoping it was a SATSair aircraft so you could say 'I told you so'.

If you were a stronger reader you would be able to find out for yourself that it wasnt a SATSair aircraft and save yourself from coming across as a dick once again.

 

[G-force]

Un-solicited Opinion

Is this poster a sad little person who cant let go of his experience at SATSair?

G-Force, anyone familiar with your posts about SATSair can problably figure out that you were hoping it was a SATSair aircraft so you could say 'I told you so'.

If you were a stronger reader you would be able to find out for yourself that it wasnt a SATSair aircraft and save yourself from coming across as a dick once again.

This is ONE BIG KOOL-AID DRINKER HERE!!!!!!!