CHQ's CO ERJs grounded?

[paulsalem]

If there is no response when you pull back on the yoke you have to wish the airplane into the air. You are probably not going fast enough, maybe another 20 knots will do the trick.

On a serious note...don't you have a flight control synoptic page to verify elevator movement?

I don't think it does. So your not really checking the flight controls, just that the yoke moves.

 

[siucavflight]

On a serious note...don't you have a flight control synoptic page to verify elevator movement?

On the EMB? No no page to verify movement.

 

[beagle pilot]

In other words, it's time to do some of that pilot sh-t. They don't teach you what to do when the checklist no longer applies at Riddle.

As clear an explanation about the difference between experience and education as I've seen in quite a while.

 

[aewanabe]

Yeah, my understanding is that the Chautauqua planes have the old mechanical gust lock. That combined with the real strong winds in the northeast the last week or two caused the problem.

Those aircraft with the electric gust lock won't experience the problem.

Also been awhile, but ony 15 or so of the EMBs still had the mechanical gust lock when I left CHQ. Most were either delivered new with the electric lock or retrofitted. As a side note, I always cringed when I got in a mechanical-lock jet on a windy day; almost had my nose taken off when one let go while I was depositing my brain-bag.

 

[Caveman]

"Captain, your controls...."

Thanks! I needed a good laugh! Except now I gotta clean the coffee off my keyboard..... :laugh:

 

[Caveman]

ERJ=Airbus=CHEAP!!!

Spoken by a guy that's flown neither one of them. Yeah, that mighty Canadair has never had a problem, right? BTW, make sure you check those flaps between every flight. You never know when something might have twisted. Oh and don't switch the bleeds too quickly either. Had any nosewheel steering faults lately? How about flap failures? How many MEL'd APU's have you had? Should I go on?

I flew the CRJ and loved every minute of it but it was flawed too. No airplane is perfect.

 

[vectorvictor]

The Carrie Underwood Maneuver: "Jesus Take the Wheeeeeel"

I just spit up egg nog.

 

[markminus100]

Eagle switched their ERJs to hydraulic gust locks. They realized the cable stretching would become a problem years ago. I'm surprised it didn't become a mandatory modification across the fleet.

do you mean electro-mechanical?

 

[ToiletDuck]

They now have to visually check the elevator for movement before every flight.

Says who? What do you do go to the back and have the Captain pull back and forth on the stick while you scream over the APU if things are working ok?

You can feel the elevator moving if you do your control checks. Guess it's time I start reading those stupid memos. If they'd quit sending 100 a month over dumb crap and calling it important I might take notice.

 

[paulsalem]

Says who? What do you do go to the back and have the Captain pull back and forth on the stick while you scream over the APU if things are working ok?

You can feel the elevator moving if you do your control checks. Guess it's time I start reading those stupid memos. If they'd quit sending 100 a month over dumb crap and calling it important I might take notice.

A friend who flys for them. That's what we have to do in the CRJ when the EICAS indicator is deffered. I usually say, count to 10, then go full up, then full down, then repeat.

 

[Alchemy]

What do you do in this situation?

Simple, continue the takeoff and bring it around the pattern using the pitch trim.

 

[ToiletDuck]

A friend who flys for them. That's what we have to do in the CRJ when the EICAS indicator is deffered. I usually say, count to 10, then go full up, then full down, then repeat.

Haven't met a single person who's done it yet.

 

[ToiletDuck]

What do you do in this situation?

Simple, continue the takeoff and bring it around the pattern using the pitch trim.

And land it how? I'd rather go roll of the end at a few kts than watch a 3000+fpm decent at the runway waiting on the trim to bring it around. It just don't move fast enough.

 

[siucavflight]

ERJ=Airbus=CHEAP!!!

How much time do you have in either of them? I have flown the CRJ, and now the ERJ. To be honest I have had a lot less problems on the ERJ. Never flown an airbus though so I cant coment.

 

[WSurf]

What do you do in this situation?

Simple, continue the takeoff and bring it around the pattern using the pitch trim.

Holly Crap! Yea, I think I would rather go off into a few feet of grass then continue the takeoff and try that.

Simple? Not hardly.

 

[siucavflight]

What do you do in this situation?

Simple, continue the takeoff and bring it around the pattern using the pitch trim.

I missed this post before.
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you must be joking. If you are not joking then wow, just wow.

 

[blott]

Hey CHQ pilot,

I was the FO on that plane for the "test" flights. Test pilot from Embraer was with us, along with the MX guys. One of the tests was to fly at 160kts and run the trim stop to stop, while holding altitude. (Elevator is supposed to still have authority-I did not enjoy the flight)

Never did find a reason for the "dead spot", and the aircraft was returned to service-as is. (with the dead spot)

B

 

[BoilerUP]

Haven't met a single person who's done it yet.

If you (or your coworkers) are supposed to do a visual flight control check but don't then you (or them) need to quit being lazy, start acting like the professional you claim to be, and DO YOUR FARKING JOB.

God God people, this isn't rocket science...

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Its just a classic example of how crappy this latest generation is.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

The Carrie Underwood Maneuver: "Jesus Take the Wheeeeeel"

I'd take control of her wheels anyday