Chicago runway too slick at Crash

[pipejockey]

Well what may be good braking for one pilot may be poor for the next guy 1 minute behind him. The other day ATC asks us for a braking action report, well we didn't really know what to tell him as it was my leg and as usual I make a stellar landing at as slow a speed I can safely accomplish, get on the reversers to the max allowed as soon as possible, and in addition, our best turnoff was near the end of the runway and therefore used hardly any braking. Well the captain says tell him it was good, I disagreed but didn't argue and told ATC it was good which I think could have been very misleading to the next guy who may have landed faster and had trouble getting into reverse and had to get on the brakes hard. This is why I think the pilot report method has it's fatal flaws so to speak.

 

[Draginass]

All the more reason to shut Midway down.

 

[FN FAL]

All the more reason to shut Midway down.

Just because pay for training brought the industry down, it's no reason to take it out on an airport.

 

[uba757]

FN, now that was stupid. You got Andy beat by a mile. Is not even close. UBA757

 

[uba757]

FN, What happened to the Clinton pay for training quote? Since is not there anymore then I take it back. Andy now that was stupid. You got FN beat by a mile. Is not even close. UBA757

 

[Dizel8]

Unfortunately, the Captain is probably still in hot water.

Certainly the use of autobrakes was smart, but it was against SOP and still questions as to the delay in using reverse.

I hope it turns out well for both!

 

[Hvy]

But...wait...this doesn't support the "Southwest Pilots Are All A Bunch Of Reckless Cowboys" template...AT ALL??

...guess that's why the usual suspects haven't piled-on to this thread yet?

You tell us: Short runway....low vis....9 knot tailwind....7 inches of fresh snow....very late deployment of thrust reversers.

There...I'm asking. Enlighten me about the decision process involved here.

 

[CKJET]

All the more reason to shut Midway down.

What is the reason? Are we also closing

DCA?
SNA?
BUR?
LGA?

 

[canyonblue]

Enlighten me about the decision process involved here.

Great, another Kernel.

 

[FNG_that's me]

It'll hit the fan when it comes out that tower reported 9 knots of tailwind when there was in fact a bit more. My speculation, but I'm guessing that when they run the landing distance numbers with the braking action observed by the mishap team and with the winds from the meter, they will find out that the calculated distance is longer than the runway available.

I'm very interested in the missing 18 seconds from the reversers, but think that the delay is due to a mechanical/icing/interlock problem, not that the captain was 'really slow.'

I also think the captain can argue that he used hit authority to arm the auto-brakes, since using them, coupled with max manual after touchdown, would lead to the shortest rollout.